# So I was a Scorpio all my life and now I'm a Libra (star signs have apparently changed). **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 13, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512 "2011-01-13T20:37:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/1 "2011-01-13T20:37:21Z")
[No, really.](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2011/01/new_zodiac_sign_dates_dont_swi.html) Let me start off by saying, I don’t believe in horoscopes or the zodiac, although it is amusing, at times, to read a horoscope once a year or two or look up what the “pros” and “cons” of your personality might be. Still, this is ranking right up there with Pluto no longer being a planet for me…it’s one of those things you know all your life and then, suddenly, it changes. Can’t say it’ll affect my life much (or at all), but yeah, I can think of SOME people whose worlds will be turned upside down at this news. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/2 "2011-01-13T20:41:38Z")
_Pisces?_ No frakking way am I a Pisces! ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/3 "2011-01-13T20:42:39Z")
Oh no - now I’m a Capricorn!! Suddenly I fear the Chupacabra!!! I do know someone whose entire life will go askew now. Her bywords were “Of course, because I’m a Scorpio!” Yeah, whatever… ---
**Author:** ![kapri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4491bb/32.png) [@kapri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kapri)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/4 "2011-01-13T20:43:05Z")
Yeah, I saw that earlier. I refuse to acknowledge it. I’ve been a Pisces all my life, dammit, and I’m not changing now!! ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/5 "2011-01-13T20:45:22Z")
I do not wish to be an Aquarius. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/6 "2011-01-13T20:45:52Z")
As the article states, this has been known for quite some time, among astrologers as well as astronomers. Some people have been compensating for it, I think, and others say to stay with the old signs. As a skeptic, I think it’s equally valid, whichever philosophy you use. And if how nearby a body is influences your horoscope, then by rights Cruithne and 2002 AA[sub]29[/sub] and the other resonant near-earth objects ought to be added to the list of planets. But I’m not holding my breath > **[3753 Cruithne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3753_Cruithne)** > > 3753 Cruithne is a Q-type, Aten asteroid in orbit around the Sun in 1:1 orbital resonance with Earth, making it a co-orbital object. It is an asteroid that, relative to Earth, orbits the Sun in a bean-shaped orbit that effectively describes a horseshoe, and that can change into a quasi-satellite orbit. Cruithne does not orbit Earth and at times it is on the other side of the Sun, placing Cruithne well outside of Earth's Hill sphere. Its orbit takes it near the orbit of Mercury and outside t The... > **[2002 AA29](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_AA29)** > > 2002 AA29 (also written 2002 AA29) is a small near-Earth asteroid that was discovered on January 9, 2002 by the LINEAR (Lincoln Near Earth Asteroid Research) automatic sky survey. The diameter of the asteroid is only about 20–100 metres (70–300 ft). It revolves about the Sun on an almost circular orbit very similar to that of the Earth. This lies for the most part inside the Earth's orbit, which it crosses near the asteroid's furthest point from the Sun, the aphelion. Because of this orbit, the a... > **[54509 YORP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/54509_YORP)** > > 54509 YORP, provisional designation 2000 PH5, is an Earth co-orbital asteroid discovered on 3 August 2000 by the Lincoln Laboratory Near-Earth Asteroid Research (LINEAR) Team at Lincoln Laboratory Experimental Test Site in Socorro, New Mexico. Measurements of the rotation rate of this object provided the first observational evidence of the YORP effect, hence the name of the asteroid. The asteroid's rate of rotation is increasing at the rate of (2.0 ± 0.2) × 10−4 deg/day2 which between 2001 an > **[(85770) 1998 UP1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%2885770%29_1998_UP1)** > > (85770) 1998 UP1 is a near Earth, Aten asteroid orbiting at nearly a 1:1 resonance with Earth. > With an orbital period of 364.3 days, 1998 UP1 is in a near 1:1 orbital resonance with Earth. Although their periods are almost identical, their orbits are very different; 1998 UP1 has a highly eccentric orbit and moves between 0.65–1.35 AU from the Sun, it is also very highly inclined at 33°. The preliminary period of 1998 UP1 was originally thought to be slightly longer than 1 year producing an err... ---
**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/7 "2011-01-13T20:46:33Z")
Well this will just kill Nancy Reagan! What a shame. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/8 "2011-01-13T20:48:06Z")
Wow, I’m still a Pisces, but my husband is now an Aquarius. This changes everything. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/9 "2011-01-13T20:50:55Z")
WTF? I’m a Libra now? I think not. Scorpio I was born, and Scorpio I remain. ---
**Author:** ![fearless\_merc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@fearless\_merc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fearless_merc)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/10 "2011-01-13T20:51:15Z")
oh-em-gee. imma pisces!!! ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/11 "2011-01-13T21:13:17Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > _Pisces?_ No frakking way am I a Pisces! Preach it! What makes the Babylonians think they’re such hot stuff that they can get away with changing our star signs? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/12 "2011-01-13T21:16:12Z")
Good Grief. All four of us change on this chart! Hubby, from Virgo to Leo Myself and son, from Gemini to Taurus Daughter, from Cancer to Gemini ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/13 "2011-01-13T21:20:45Z")
I am, and will always be, a Cancer. Not a Gemini. Not in a million years. ---
**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/14 "2011-01-13T21:20:50Z")
So someone’s gone to the trouble of ‘correcting’ the signs and still not added [Ophiuchus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_(astrology)). ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/15 "2011-01-13T21:22:43Z")
> [@Cunctator](#): > > So someone’s gone to the trouble of ‘correcting’ the signs and still not added [Ophiuchus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_(astrology)). The article I had seen (different from the OP) included that sign. Wonder why this one didn’t? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/16 "2011-01-13T21:25:58Z")
I am not an Aries! What a load of bull. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/17 "2011-01-13T21:36:04Z")
Is this the same as[precession of the equinoxes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession_of_the_equinoxes)? Because if so, astrology debunkers have been talking about it for decades and astonomers have known about it since BC. (Or BCE, if you prefer.) ((And yes, I know that BC, astronomers were astrologers, usually.)) I’ve never heard of an astrologer changing anything due to precession. Many of them are aware of it, they just chuckle when it’s brought up and handwave it away as unimportant. ---
**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/18 "2011-01-13T21:39:37Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > The article I had seen (different from the OP) included that sign. Wonder why this one didn’t? I just tracked back to the original article too and noticed that it included Ophiuchus. Perhaps the Washington Post ‘simplified’ it to avoid reporting too much change to the system? Being moved to another, recognised, sign is one thing. Presumably getting assigned to a completely new sign would be too much of a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/19 "2011-01-13T21:49:50Z")
I am now a Scorpio. You know what, I refuse. I like being a Sagittarius. My SO manages to remain a Taurus, though now he is on the cusp! ---
**Author:** ![nicole1912](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9de0a6/32.png) [@nicole1912](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicole1912)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/20 "2011-01-13T21:54:53Z")
I apparently go from being a Sagittarius, nearly a Capricorn, to being a Sagittarius, nearly a Scorpio. Oddly, I don’t feel this has changed my life… (I quite like being a Sagittarius, so I’m glad it doesn’t change, though!) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512.md?page=2)