# So I was a Scorpio all my life and now I'm a Libra (star signs have apparently changed).

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**Created:** [January 13, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512 "2011-01-13T20:37:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/61 "2011-01-14T04:33:49Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> This is not exactly breaking news. Here’s a [_Time_ magazine article](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,943321-1,00.html) from November 1970 that describes the changes, as well as adding the constellations of Ophiuchus and Cetus to the zodiac. (I think this is where I first read about the shift of the zodiac constellations.)

Definitely - it’s about as much breaking news as “Earth revolves around the Sun contrary to previous reports,” but the current panic over the loss of one’s sign makes me thinks that the current “announcement” is joke, a new version of an old story.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/62 "2011-01-14T04:35:23Z")

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Well, I was never a K-car kinda guy anyway.

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**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/63 "2011-01-14T08:07:17Z")

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I will give up my Scorpiohood when they pry my cold dead fingers off of it. So There!

Not that I actually believe in that poop, but…if I did…they would have to pry my cold dead fingers, etc., etc.

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**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/64 "2011-01-14T08:11:51Z")

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Great, my sign changed too! Now when someone asks I can tell them Upyourscus instead of Sagittarius. I feel different already.

And I now longer have a compulsion to visit those centaur pornsites. Rule 34.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/65 "2011-01-14T10:30:55Z")

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Pfft. I went sidereal years ago. This is what I’ve been saying for some time: instead of just dividing the ecliptic into 12 equal parts, actually use these arbitrary collections of stars you’re pretending mean something.

I am amused that Ophiuchus is basically pushing out Scorpius.

And yes, I know it’s poppycock. Chalk up any pretense that I believe in it at all to my Gemini nature.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/66 "2011-01-14T14:02:35Z")

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> [@swampbear](#):
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> Preach it! I ain’t no stinkin’ crab. I am Lion hear me **ROAR**!!!

I used to be a Leo (July 29) and now I’m a Cancer. Oddly enough, I always identified more with Cancer (blue, water) than Leo (red, fire).

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**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/67 "2011-01-14T14:07:40Z")

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I guess I get to choose again what I want to be. At first I was on the cusp of Gemini and Cancer, now I’m on the cusp of Gemini and Taurus. Maybe I’ll just stick with being a twin crab.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/68 "2011-01-14T14:10:34Z")

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[Worf]

I object! I am not a Libra!

[/Worf]

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/69 "2011-01-14T15:07:53Z")

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Despite my Xmas B-day, I am not anything like a Capricorn of a Sagetarius.

I am, and shall always consider myself, a Pices.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/70 "2011-01-14T15:44:19Z")

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I don’t really give much of a crap about my sign, in fact, I don’t think I’ve checked it in years, but it looks like I’m no longer a Virgo. I’m a Leo. I guess that’s okay. So, which of the [13 signs](http://www.syracuse.com/have-you-heard/index.ssf/2011/01/did_your_zodiac_sign_change_ce.html) are you now?

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/71 "2011-01-14T15:46:20Z")

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Apparently I’m now a Leo. I will seek to change my personality accordingly. Rawr.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/72 "2011-01-14T15:50:04Z")

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I have a friend who’s been studying sidereal astrology for years, and I just don’t buy it. Can’t explain why, but it just doesn’t fit. I am the Queen of TMI - don’t tell me I’m a Scorpio! Out of all my close friends, there are less than 10% that I think fit their sidereal signs better than their tropical ones.

But yes. Tropically, I’m a Sagittarius. Sidereally, I’m a Scorpio. As if.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/73 "2011-01-14T15:55:11Z")

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Was a Leo, now a Cancer.  
I’m glad all the time or money I’ve invested into anything astrological is limited to a $2 pendant I bought 15 years ago, I’d imagine it’s been in a landfill somewhere for the last 12 years.

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/74 "2011-01-14T15:56:45Z")

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I don’t make a big deal about it, but yes, I changed. I’m the new guy with the name I can’t pronounce, so I’m calling him “Big Buff Hairy Guy With Snake”

Sounds way cooler.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/75 "2011-01-14T15:57:02Z")

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[I’m a Libra now](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=592924), supposedly…although in my heart and mind, I’ll always consider myself still a Scorpio.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/76 "2011-01-14T16:02:29Z")

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Merged duplicate threads.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/77 "2011-01-14T16:10:32Z")

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I don’t hang around with enough silly hippies, so just checking- if your birthdate is listed as being two signs, does that make it ‘on the cusp’?

So I’m no longer just an aquarius, I’m aquarius _on the cusp_ of capricorn…  
Ooh, I think I’ll say it in a dramatic whisper…

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/78 "2011-01-14T16:30:52Z")

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[CNN clarifies some stuff.](http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/13/no-your-zodiac-sign-hasnt-changed/?npt=NP1)  
Apparently we’re all still what we were. 😛

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/79 "2011-01-14T16:48:00Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> I don’t hang around with enough silly hippies, so just checking- if your birthdate is listed as being two signs, does that make it ‘on the cusp’?
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> So I’m no longer just an aquarius, I’m aquarius _on the cusp_ of capricorn..  
> Ooh, I think I’ll say it in a dramatic whisper…

Some people think that if you’re “on the cusp”, you may have some of the traits of each sign. Many astrologers don’t think so, some do, but the ones that do generally define cusp a little more strictly than laypeople do: if your birthday is on the first or last day of the sign for your birth year (the dates change a little bit year to year), then you can be considered a cusp. I’ve heard laypeople refer to themselves as cusp with a birthday as many as 5 days into their sign, which makes most astrologers stabby.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> [CNN clarifies some stuff.](http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/13/no-your-zodiac-sign-hasnt-changed/?npt=NP1)  
> Apparently we’re all still what we were. 😛

This is one of those “news” articles that isn’t news. (The ones in the OPs, I mean.) Tropical astrologers, as the CNN article points out, know damn well that the constellations don’t line up with the zodiac as they once did. But that’s okay, because they aren’t using the constellations, anyhow. And this gets argued out at every bonfire or bar where two astrologers meet, and has been for hundreds of years.

Really, I wonder how “news” like this becomes News.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-was-a-scorpio-all-my-life-and-now-im-a-libra-star-signs-have-apparently-changed/567512/80 "2011-01-14T17:07:25Z")

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No, I knew that, but, like you said, it got big enough to apparently have to be calmed down. Heh.

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