# So I'm Finally Watching Buffy... \[Progressive unboxed spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 11, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107 "2010-05-11T22:25:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/661 "2010-08-09T16:20:12Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > I’d forgotten how awesome Lilah was. God, I loved her. The Wolfram & Hart junior lawyers, along with Wesley, were the best thing on the show. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/662 "2010-08-09T17:18:29Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > There’s actually two (I apologize for anyone’s morning I’m about to kill): > > [Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SORAS) > > [Plot Relevant Age Up](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotRelevantAgeUp) (which includes Connor in the examples) Ah… thanks. Sounds exactly like what I meant… (will not click links… must not click links…) ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/663 "2010-08-09T18:47:05Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > [@gonzoron](#): > > > > would be interesting to see the correlation there. For example, I love both of them. Does liking B-S6 imply a good chance of liking A-S4? > > That would be interesting. I may start that poll later today… The poll is up. > **[Your opinions of Buffy: Season 6 and Angel: Season 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=574045)** > > In olives’ massive thread about her first time watching Buffy and Angel, the question was raised over whether the people who dislike Buffy: Season 6 and the people who dislike Angel: Season 4 overlap in any way. So here’s the poll, with two very... ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/664 "2010-08-09T18:58:42Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > would be interesting to see the correlation there. For example, I love both of them. Does liking B-S6 imply a good chance of liking A-S4? I love both as well, and assumed that there is indeed a correlation. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/665 "2010-08-09T19:10:00Z")
I love AtS S4 and my feelings towards S6 are ambivalent at best. Actually, all things equal, I think S4 is far superior to S6. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/666 "2010-08-09T19:40:35Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > > [@Zsofia](#): > > > > I’d forgotten how awesome Lilah was. God, I loved her. > > The Wolfram & Hart junior lawyers, along with Wesley, were the best thing on the show. Not whatshisface with the hand, though! God, I was stuck in a car repair waiting room just a few weeks ago and was astonished to see that somebody let him be in another movie. (On the other hand, I think it also had Jimmy Fallon, so it wasn’t like it was a _good_ movie or anything.) ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/667 "2010-08-10T17:19:19Z")
I just watched The Body. It’s probably the best episode of a major character dying in a T.V. show I’ve ever seen. Anya’s reaction to the whole thing was great. Speaking of Anya, the episode where they spawn her troll boyfriend was hilarious. Gachnar The Fear Demon is my favorite one time bad guy, but the [del]ogre[/del] troll has to be the runner up. He drank two kegs of ale like it was nothing! So far, Season 5 has been pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/668 "2010-08-10T17:25:35Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Best moment EVER. Though I didn’t completely get his explanation for why sucking his magics out helped Willow connect with her internal humanity. I thought Xander did a fine job of that all by himself. My best moment EVER (at least from Season 6, I haven’t ranked for all seasons) is directly after that (IIRC) when he and Buffy are talking in the training room: > [@](#): > > Giles: Buffy, what’s happened here? > Buffy: God. I don’t even know where to start. > Giles: Well, Willow’s clearly been abusing the magicks. > Buffy: She has. She was … and I barely even noticed. Giles, everything’s just been so… [sighs.] Xander left Anya at the altar, and Anya’s a vengeance demon again… [Giles looks shocked.] Dawn’s a total klepto … money’s been so tight that I’ve been slinging burgers at the Doublemeat Palace … [looks down at the floor.] And I’ve been sleeping with Spike. > > [Giles stares at her… then starts laughing. He covers his mouth with his hand but can’t stop. Buffy stares at him.] > > ``` > Giles: [trying to calm down.] Sorry. > > ``` > > [He bursts out laughing again. Buffy rolls her eyes, now just looks amused. Giles keeps laughing and slowly Buffy starts to laugh too.] > > [They both stand there laughing uncontrollably.] It was the perfect moment of levity in a horrifically, and deliciously, dark season. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/669 "2010-08-10T19:02:09Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > I just watched The Body. It’s probably the best episode of a major character dying in a T.V. show I’ve ever seen. > > Anya’s reaction to the whole thing was great. > > Speaking of Anya, the episode where they spawn her troll boyfriend was hilarious. Gachnar The Fear Demon is my favorite one time bad guy, but the [del]ogre[/del] troll has to be the runner up. He drank two kegs of ale like it was nothing! > > So far, Season 5 has been pretty good. It sounds like you and I have very similar taste. Anya’s reaction to Joyce’s death was the one I most related to, and I also loved the troll boyfriend. ‘‘Puny receptacle!’’ _trashes rubbish bin_ ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/670 "2010-08-10T22:10:45Z")
Troll: Where can I find delicious babies? Spike (turning to Xander): What do you think, the hospital? Cracked me right the hell up. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/671 "2010-08-11T02:54:50Z")
> [@Mauvaise](#): > > It was the perfect moment of levity in a horrifically, and deliciously, dark season. Oh yeah, I love that moment. I just think it makes sense that Giles would die of laughter when he thinks of Buffy and Spike together. I mean…Spike? He’s the worst! It is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/672 "2010-08-11T05:11:35Z")
So I just finished the fifth season. The finale kept me on the edge of my seat but I didn’t understand how Buffy just assumed her blood was the same as Dawn’s. They’re fake sisters but why did she assume their blood was the same? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/673 "2010-08-11T06:43:16Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > So I just finished the fifth season. The finale kept me on the edge of my seat but I didn’t understand how Buffy just assumed her blood was the same as Dawn’s. They’re fake sisters but why did she assume their blood was the same? The monks told Buffy that they created Dawn from her, so it wasn’t totally out of left field. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/674 "2010-08-11T11:52:49Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@tr0psn4j](#): > > > > So I just finished the fifth season. The finale kept me on the edge of my seat but I didn’t understand how Buffy just assumed her blood was the same as Dawn’s. They’re fake sisters but why did she assume their blood was the same? > > The monks told Buffy that they created Dawn from her, so it wasn’t totally out of left field. Yeah, only out of center field. 🙂 I had a problem with that too, not because it made no sense, but because it _could_ have made sense with the addition of one line somewhere in the season. Anything saying the monks used her blood to turn the key into dawn form or something like that, and poof! it makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/675 "2010-08-11T14:45:33Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > > [@Miller](#): > > > > The monks told Buffy that they created Dawn from her, so it wasn’t totally out of left field. > > Yeah, only out of center field. 🙂 > > I had a problem with that too, not because it made no sense, but because it _could_ have made sense with the addition of one line somewhere in the season. Anything saying the monks used her blood to turn the key into dawn form or something like that, and poof! it makes sense. Nah. I think that would’ve been _too_ obvious - it would have felt like telegraphing. As is, we have Spike’s wonderful monologue (“Of course it’s her blood”) early in “The Gift” to set up that blood is equivalent to a person’s essence. Given that we know that the monks made Dawn from Buffy, it’s a small logical leap for Buffy to intuit that Dawn’s blood and Buffy’s blood must be the same. Was she certain it would work? No. But that only makes her sacrifice even more heroic. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/676 "2010-08-11T15:47:27Z")
It’s not like they could have got Buffy’s blood, even if they wanted to though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/677 "2010-08-11T18:48:03Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > It’s not like they could have got Buffy’s blood, even if they wanted to though. 🙂 They can warp reality to make a non-existent person appear to have been there all along and they can’t get a little blood from a Slayer? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/678 "2010-08-11T18:52:41Z")
So they managed to pull her out of heaven, bury her alive and squander all her money in the last three episodes. Some friends! Playing poker for kittens was kind of funny. Also, so far, Season 6 isn’t nearly as bad as everyone made me believe it would be. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/679 "2010-08-11T20:31:53Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > Also, so far, Season 6 isn’t nearly as bad as everyone made me believe it would be. I just finished watching S6, and my opinion is that it’s quite good. My second favorite in the series so far. As the season goes on, though, you’ll begin to understand why some people might not like it. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/680 "2010-08-12T01:59:47Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > So they managed to pull her out of heaven, bury her alive and squander all her money in the last three episodes. Some friends! > . Squander all her money? I know she’s broke, but I thought that was because she had little money left after her Mother died. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107.md?page=35)