# So I'm Finally Watching Buffy... \[Progressive unboxed spoilers\]

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**Created:** [May 11, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107 "2010-05-11T22:25:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/681 "2010-08-12T02:19:15Z")

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Agreed, but consider it from Buffy’s perspective. Girl had the shittiest month ever.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/682 "2010-08-12T02:35:03Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> It’s not like they could have got Buffy’s blood, even if they wanted to though. 🙂

Nah, that’d be the easy part. Girl’s bled over half of Sunnydale.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/683 "2010-08-12T02:47:15Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> > So they managed to pull her out of heaven, bury her alive and squander all her money in the last three episodes. Some friends!  
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> Squander all her money? I know she’s broke, but I thought that was because she had little money left after her Mother died.

No, her mom left her a lot of money but most of it ended up going towards Buffy’s hospitalization and funeral.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/684 "2010-08-12T02:53:13Z")

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Joyce’s hospitalization.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/685 "2010-08-12T03:19:44Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> No, her mom left her a lot of money but most of it ended up going towards Buffy’s hospitalization and funeral.

So, not squandered?

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/686 "2010-08-12T03:30:25Z")

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Bad choice of words I guess. But the Scoobies were buying clothes with the money too.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/687 "2010-08-12T23:52:03Z")

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They were? I don’t remember that. Where was that said?

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/688 "2010-08-13T01:51:15Z")

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[This is taken directly from a script off of a website.](http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/scripts/104_scri.html)

> [@](#):
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> BUFFY  
> Pff. I blame the sofa. We need a real  
> pull-out bed. The kind with no payments  
> 'til two-thousand-and-infinity.
> 
> GILES  
> What?
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> BUFFY  
> Just, money stuff. Turns out Mom  
> left me some and while I was dead?  
> Got squandered on luxuries like food  
> and clothing.
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> GILES  
> How bad is it?
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> BUFFY  
> Anya says bad. I’m kinda taking  
> her word for it. Actually, I’m kinda  
> trying to not think about it.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/689 "2010-08-13T02:22:26Z")

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“Luxuries like food and clothing”. That would imply the clothing was needed.

Furthermore, now that you pasted that bit of text, I remember that scene and her tone, which matches my understanding above. I always took it to mean the money got “wasted” on the day to day mundanities like milk, bread, and undergarments for Dawn and her guardians.

The whole point of the season is that life sucks.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/690 "2010-08-13T02:46:46Z")

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Yeah, I can see that. They just talk about it like it was a decent sum of money but then spend it in a very short period of time.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/691 "2010-08-13T06:12:17Z")

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Well, that’s the problem with the Buffyverse - the monsters don’t have any treasure. If B had been a D&D character she’s be rolling in dough.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/692 "2010-08-13T06:15:07Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Well, that’s the problem with the Buffyverse - the monsters don’t have any treasure. If B had been a D&D character she’s be rolling in dough.

But it’s the Buffyverse, she _should_ be rolling in kitties. In theory at least… 😃

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/693 "2010-08-13T06:57:49Z")

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What I never understood was why the Watcher’s Council didn’t supply an income. They HAD the money. You’d think they’d want the Slayer to not have to worry about things like mortgages and doctor bills and things.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/694 "2010-08-13T07:09:15Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> What I never understood was why the Watcher’s Council didn’t supply an income. They HAD the money. You’d think they’d want the Slayer to not have to worry about things like mortgages and doctor bills and things.

Naah ! That’s why Slayers were teenage girls. Their parents were the ones stuck with the bill. You’ll notice that Watchers **are** paid. Giles made a point, when Buffy forced the Council to rehire him, about his backpay.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/695 "2010-08-13T12:32:48Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> Yeah, I can see that. They just talk about it like it was a decent sum of money but then spend it in a very short period of time.

It might have started out decent, but a large lump sum of money can go very fast when there is no more income and you have to pay mortgage, old hospital and funeral bills, food, utilities, etc…

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**Author:** ![Waffle\_Decider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/77aa72/32.png) [@Waffle\_Decider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waffle_Decider)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/696 "2010-08-13T12:52:52Z")

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You see, that’s why America needs universal healthcare! 😃

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/697 "2010-08-13T13:01:16Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> What I never understood was why the Watcher’s Council didn’t supply an income. They HAD the money. You’d think they’d want the Slayer to not have to worry about things like mortgages and doctor bills and things.

Basically, they are thoughtless pigs who know another Slayer will arise when the current one is killed. They really don’t seem to care for the Slayers at all.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/698 "2010-08-13T13:46:18Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Basically, they are thoughtless pigs who know another Slayer will arise when the current one is killed. They really don’t seem to care for the Slayers at all.

Well…(spoiler for the 15th episode of the seventh season of Buffy)

We do find out that the first Watchers were just some guys who basically kidnapped a young girl and forced the essence of a demon into her. They really _didn’t_ care for the girl at all, to them, she was just a vessel for this power that they needed to fight the demons with.  
There’s a LOT of irony in this episode…a demon slayer’s power coming from a demon, and a show that is very heavy with the idea that a woman can be strong, powerful, and all that other jazz, has at it’s core a bunch of misogynistic old men who just want to boss around some little girl.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/699 "2010-08-13T17:05:02Z")

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> [@Waffle\_Decider](#):
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> You see, that’s why America needs universal healthcare! 😃

Because of The Slayer? 😃

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/700 "2010-08-13T17:10:35Z")

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Bah, took too long editing.

Is Buffy still technically a slayer? As the slayer, she dies, Jamaican Girl becomes the slayer and when she dies, it’s Faith’s turn. Faith eventually gets locked up and I haven’t really heard anything about her since then. So I’m assuming she’s alive and hasn’t triggered another slayer spawn. But When Buffy dies again, do we get a third slayer somewhere in the world? Or is being in that heaven dimension still considered living?

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