# So I'm Finally Watching Buffy... \[Progressive unboxed spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 11, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107 "2010-05-11T22:25:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/781 "2010-12-04T17:59:50Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > The fun is just getting started! I can’t wait to finish Angel Season 5 so I can read through all these spoiler boxes. Oh goodness, I forgot about Angel. I’m gonna have to figure out when to start watching it and where it goes in the series. Without getting anything spoilered in the process! ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/782 "2010-12-04T18:06:31Z")
> [@RachelChristine](#): > > Oh goodness, I forgot about Angel. I’m gonna have to figure out when to start watching it and where it goes in the series. Without getting anything spoilered in the process! Here you go: [Buffyfest: The Buffy/Angel episode watching guide](http://buffyfest.blogspot.com/2009/04/buffyangel-episode-watching-guide.html) This viewing order should get you all the related/crossovery episodes in the right order. No spoilers on this page (at least until you get into the comments, I didn’t check there) but lots of them elsewhere on the site, so no clicky-clicky! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/783 "2010-12-04T19:39:06Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > And looking forward to closing out Angel Season 5, even if he is apparently going to spend the whole season in want of a haircut. Not to mention porking up! ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/784 "2010-12-04T19:46:31Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > Not to mention porking up! I will eat my hat if Boreanaz wasn’t on steroids that season. Bulked up, puffy face, acne in his thirties? Oh yeah. He was about one overdose away from lactating. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/785 "2010-12-04T20:26:15Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > I thought they were going to repeatedly kill and resurrect Buffy and Faith so that all of the girls would be chosen as slayers. I had a similar idea. 1. It was established that the death of one Slayer caused the emergence of the next, even if the first Slayer was then brought back to life. 2. When Tara died and Willow tried to get her brought back, she was told that only people who were killed by magic could be brought back to life by magic. 3. When Willow was discussing the plan to promote the Potential Slayers, she said that the idea of the spell frightened her, because it was “too big”. 4. Willow was originally a tech geek, a programmer. Putting all those together, I thought that Willow was going to cast a spell that would \*sequentially \*kill and resurrect the Slayers. As each Slayer died, the next would be called… and then the spell would automatically resurrect the previous Slayer, like a line of code. I envisioned each of the Potentials dying and then resurrecting, faster and faster, and then the effect going worldwide. I think this would’ve been a much more powerful scene than Willow just going into a trance and suddenly activating all of the Potentials all at once. It would’ve certainly explained why she was so afraid to do it- that’s awful close to dark magic. The scene as shot was pretty neat, but I think Willow sequentially killing every Slayer to activate the next would’ve been a lot more climactic. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/786 "2010-12-04T20:27:59Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > I like the geeky scientist guy they are putting opposite Fred. Heh heh heh… ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/787 "2010-12-04T23:40:47Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I will eat my hat if Boreanaz wasn’t on steroids that season. Bulked up, puffy face, acne in his thirties? Oh yeah. He was about one overdose away from lactating. I hadn’t considered that, but it fits. Big mistake, dude. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/788 "2010-12-05T03:53:30Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I will eat my hat if Boreanaz wasn’t on steroids that season. Bulked up, puffy face, acne in his thirties? Oh yeah. He was about one overdose away from lactating. He had surgery on his knee sometime early that season. I always figured he just gained weight because he couldn’t work out. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/789 "2010-12-05T04:40:28Z")
Acne in a man’s thirties is not at all uncommon, without steroids. As for weight gain, it happens to most of us as we age. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/790 "2010-12-05T13:07:53Z")
Just watched Angel Season 5, episode 4, ‘‘Hellbound,’’ and holy shit was that creepy. That one might surpass ‘‘Hush’’ for the freak-out factor. Incidentally, it occurs to me that Spike’s character has struggled in multiple ways with the same affliction: impotence. First in the wheelchair, then with the chip, and now as a non-corporeal being. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/791 "2010-12-05T14:53:12Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Acne in a man’s thirties is not at all uncommon, without steroids. > > As for weight gain, it happens to most of us as we age. Yeah, but that particular hulking pattern of \*muscle \*gain with stooped shoulders and a puffy face isn’t usual. And acne may not be beat in ones 30’s, but it rarely develops in one who didn’t have it in his 20’s without outside influence. It’s not the one or two symptoms alone that make me suspicious, it’s all of them taken together, and the fact that he’s no longer nearly so hulking _now_ on Bones. I do remember the knee surgery thing. Perhaps it was medically prescribed corticosteroids for knee inflammation and pain, rather than recreational anabolic steroids. **olives** , I think you’re onto something with the Spike/impotence pattern. Even before he was vamped, William was a fairly impotent young man, socially speaking. The ladies laughed at him, his mother dominated him…yeah, the subtext is rapidly becoming text. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bb73d2/32.png) [@Evil\_Jon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Jon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/792 "2010-12-05T15:47:31Z")
I’m watching through season 5 of Angel for the first time as well (on episode 8). I really didn’t like all the previous seasons, but I’m really enjoying this one. I’m wondering if the Buffy writers moved over to Angel? It has that fun factor that was missing before. Just to give you a heads up: for some unknown reason, episode 10 is not available on Netflix instant, Hulu or any bittorrents I can find. It’s like some witch used her dark magicks to make all the digital copies disappear. 😛 So we’ll have to add that disk to our queue I guess. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/793 "2010-12-05T21:55:27Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > The only downside is just that it’s hard to leave so many wonderful characters behind. Willow has now apparently become the Good Witch and it would have been nice to see where that went. Well, there’s the comic books, as mentioned upthread. Some like it, some don’t. I do. But regardless, it’s a way to see what happens next, at least in Joss’s mind. > [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Incidentally, it occurs to me that Spike’s character has struggled in multiple ways with the same affliction: impotence. First in the wheelchair, then with the chip, and now as a non-corporeal being. Good observation. Make’s willow and spike’s exchange in _The Initiative_ (when he tried to bite her but was chipped) all the more funny. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/794 "2010-12-05T22:06:51Z")
> [@Evil\_Jon](#): > > Just to give you a heads up: for some unknown reason, episode 10 is not available on Netflix instant, Hulu or any bittorrents I can find. It’s like some witch used her dark magicks to make all the digital copies disappear. 😛 > > So we’ll have to add that disk to our queue I guess. Thanks for the heads up! Just added it to our queue, hopefully it will arrive in a timely fashion. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/795 "2010-12-05T23:38:11Z")
> [@Evil\_Jon](#): > > Just to give you a heads up: for some unknown reason, episode 10 is not available on Netflix instant, Hulu or any bittorrents I can find. Must be one of the songs. It had: - Supersuckers - “Junk - Club 1” - The Righteous Brothers - “My Darling Clementine” - “For He’s a Jolly Good Fellow”" - The gang sing this. One of those songs must have rights that disallow it from streaming. Bit torrent, though? Yeesh, you should be able to find that. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/796 "2010-12-05T23:59:09Z")
I see plenty of well-seeded torrents for Bring on the Night on my preferred site. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bb73d2/32.png) [@Evil\_Jon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Jon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/797 "2010-12-06T02:32:08Z")
> [@Hades](#): > > I see plenty of well-seeded torrents for Bring on the Night on my preferred site. Season 5 Episode 10 of Angel is “Soul Purpose” which has 0 seeders on my go to site. If you can find it, please PM the link.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzero)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/798 "2010-12-06T05:59:52Z")
I just checked netflix and it gives me the option to play episode 10 (season 5) - so that’s a lie I guess. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/799 "2010-12-06T06:54:46Z")
dzero, are you looking at Buffy or Angel? Season 5 Episode 10 (Soul Purpose) of Angel is not available for me in Netflix streaming. ---
**Author:** ![dzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzero)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107/800 "2010-12-06T08:10:39Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > dzero, are you looking at Buffy or Angel? Season 5 Episode 10 (Soul Purpose) of Angel is not available for me in Netflix streaming. OK, sorry. I should have matched up the titles and not just the season/episode. [Have you tried usenet?](http://www.binsearch.info/index.php?q=angel+s05e10&m=&max=250&adv_g=&adv_age=999&adv_sort=date&minsize=20&maxsize=&font=&postdate=&hideposter=on) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-finally-watching-buffy-progressive-unboxed-spoilers/539107.md?page=41)