# So I'm Thinking Of Watching Every James Bond Movie, In Order **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 27, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162 "2014-07-27T15:21:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/81 "2014-07-31T02:17:28Z")
> [@mr.jp](#): > > Holy \*\*\*\* that is awesome. My girlfriend’s nephew is named after that stuntman. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/82 "2014-07-31T03:27:04Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The problem I noticed was in Goldfinger’s motivation for the Fort Knox attack. He says early on that he loves gold itself (“its brilliance, its divine heaviness”, something like that), not what he can buy with the gold, and he welcomes any endeavor that will increase his holdings. But irradiating Fort Knox won’t bring Goldfinger any more gold, it will just make the gold he has more valuable (and make it that much more costly for him to get more). > > Still a good movie.The theme song alone puts it in the upper echelons of Bond films. But since he will have made huge investments in Gold Futures, the sudden crash of the gold market will make him billions in paper money, so he’ll be able to afford more real physical gold. This is one of the best examples ever of the movie being better than the book. In the book, he was just going to rob Ft. Knox. The movie’s idea is much more clever. (Also, in the book, he was so stupid, he kept Bond alive…to help him with the detailed planning of the raid! And, maybe worst of all, in the book, it was Bond’s seduction/rape of Pussy Galore that caused her to betray Goldfinger. In the movie, it was shown that she had reservations regarding the deadliness of the gas attack on the civilian population in the area. She wanted out of the whole deal…but saw what happened to the other guy who tried to leave.) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/83 "2014-07-31T03:40:50Z")
As high concepts go, robbing or nuking Fort Knox is at least _feasible_ (for extremely generous definitions of the word), in contrast to the near-identical _The Spy Who Loved Me_ and _Moonraker_, where the plan was exterminate humanity and rule the post-apocalyptic Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/84 "2014-07-31T03:51:43Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > But since he will have made huge investments in Gold Futures, the sudden crash of the gold market will make him billions in paper money, so he’ll be able to afford more real physical gold. The Fort Knox attack wouldn’t cause the gold market to crash, it would skyrocket. It would make all the gold there unsafe and unusable, essentially cutting the world’s supply. Demand would stay the same (or, in such a time of economic turmoil, increase) and so the price would go up. But Goldfinger doesn’t want the price of gold to go up. I love chocolate; I want it to be cheap so I can buy more of it. Maybe there’s an infestation that devastates the cacao trees, and the price goes up. I can sell some of the stock from my chocolate warehouse and buy a Rolls Royce. But I don’t love Rolls Royces, I love chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/85 "2014-07-31T04:57:38Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The Fort Knox attack wouldn’t cause the gold market to crash, it would skyrocket. It would make all the gold there unsafe and unusable, essentially cutting the world’s supply. Demand would stay the same (or, in such a time of economic turmoil, increase) and so the price would go up. . . . Well, okay. But it would put millions of jewelers out of work. The small consumer market for gold would vanish. > [@](#): > > But Goldfinger doesn’t want the price of gold to go up. I love chocolate; I want it to be cheap so I can buy more of it. Maybe there’s an infestation that devastates the cacao trees, and the price goes up. I can sell some of the stock from my chocolate warehouse and buy a Rolls Royce. But I don’t love Rolls Royces, I love chocolate. True. This is a valid gripe. It only really works if Goldfinger wants money. (It makes me think, a little, of the collateral investments the WTC attackers made in shorting airline futures, knowing that airline travel would be severely curtailed right after the attack, and that airline travel, in general, would be depressed for the first few months after. They not only got in a nasty terrorist strike…they also made a load of money on it too. The ultimate in “insider trading.”) ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/86 "2014-07-31T10:35:54Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > I’m almost certain I told this yarn before, but my son (teenager at the time) and I saw a rescreening of _Live and Let Die_ at a neighborhood theater with maybe a dozen others in the matinee audience. We were sitting near a little old lady who commented on [this scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhUlXS09lM0) by saying loudly enough for the whole crowd to hear, “Bullshit!” Compare this to the scene in **Casino Royale** where [D. Craig chases that African guy across town and over a crane](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5M5R2pcPJ0). I subsequently thought of Moore as the “work smarter” Bond and Craig as the “work harder” version. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/87 "2014-07-31T11:54:27Z")
> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#): > > Compare this to the scene in **Casino Royale** where [D. Craig chases that African guy across town and over a crane](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5M5R2pcPJ0). I subsequently thought of Moore as the “work smarter” Bond and Craig as the “work harder” version. Indeed. I wonder (haven’t actually checked YouTube yet) if there’s a compilation of just the opening scenes – which rarely have any bearing on the plot of the main movie – of all the JB movies. It would have to run over an hour and might make for a special film all its own. I know I’d watch it just for the razzle-dazzle and for how much must have been spent to produce those teasers. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/88 "2014-07-31T13:48:43Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Compare this to the scene in **Casino Royale** where D. Craig chases that African guy across town and over a crane. I subsequently thought of Moore as the “work smarter” Bond and Craig as the “work harder” version. > > Indeed. I wonder (haven’t actually checked YouTube yet) if there’s a compilation of just the opening scenes – which rarely have any bearing on the plot of the main movie – of all the JB movies. You want a “work smarter, not harder” Bond? Sean Connery spent movie after movie failing to kill Blofeld before Roger Moore did it in the opening teaser. ::d&r:: ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/89 "2014-08-01T23:34:41Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Was that the one who would say (on the commercials), ‘You in a heap o’ trouble, boy. Y’heah?’ Yep. ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/90 "2014-08-02T01:13:25Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Please! “The World Is Not Enough” doesn’t sound like a hero’s family motto but a warning from a super villain. 1. That’s been the Bond family motto for several movies now. 2. What profits a man should he gain the whole world but lose his soul? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/91 "2014-08-02T01:32:23Z")
> [@dotchan](#): > > 1. That’s been the Bond family motto for several movies now. In the books (well, book… _On Her Majesty’s Secret Service_), it’s a motto of _a_ Bond family, but whether or not James Bond is related is, to him, a matter of complete indifference. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/92 "2014-08-02T01:53:14Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > …(It makes me think, a little, of the collateral investments the WTC attackers made in shorting airline futures, knowing that airline travel would be severely curtailed right after the attack, and that airline travel, in general, would be depressed for the first few months after. They not only got in a nasty terrorist strike…they also made a load of money on it too. The ultimate in “insider trading.”) They really did that, or you’re speculating on IF they had? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/93 "2014-08-02T02:12:47Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > They really did that, or you’re speculating on IF they had? Now I’m not sure. I did some searching, but all I find are conspiracy sites, nothing that looks legitimate. I may have fallen for an UL. Given that OBL came from a rich family, it is certainly something within his capability. If I were about to launch a hellish attack on the airlines, I’d short airline futures to get that extra leverage out of the event. But did it happen that way? I had thought so, but am now starting to wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/94 "2014-08-02T03:21:06Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > They really did that, or you’re speculating on IF they had? It’s funny - M herself said that happened in _Casino Royale_. So whether it’s true in real life, it’s true in the movie world. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/95 "2014-08-03T02:28:34Z")
I’ve read a lot about 9-11, and I’d never heard that they did that. I think it’s a UL. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/96 "2014-08-03T03:03:10Z")
[Roger Moore’s best James Bond role.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnLnyMPmX3g) ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/97 "2014-08-03T06:25:58Z")
The Roger Moore ones became increasingly, um, comedic, IMHO. The Daniel Craig ones should probably be watched in order. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/98 "2014-08-03T08:27:55Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > The Roger Moore ones became increasingly, um, comedic, IMHO. \. Except for FYEO which was a return to realism (more or less) following the excesses of Moonraker. I still stand by Moonraker **as a novel**. It has little to do with the film, no space station, no plan to exterminate the human race. Just a great story. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162/99 "2014-08-03T14:24:24Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > [Roger Moore’s best James Bond role.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnLnyMPmX3g) I preferred this one: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3atzmKqmI_I/hqdefault.jpg "Roger Moore in Curse of the Pink Panther") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3atzmKqmI_I) Actually, I think Moore’s best action/adventure role was in _ffoulkes_, where he plays the Anti-Bond. And Pierce Brosnan’s best role was in _The Taylor of Panama_, where he plays the Anti-Bond. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-im-thinking-of-watching-every-james-bond-movie-in-order/694162.md?page=4)