# So in the Great Debates forum, where are the winners posted?

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**Created:** [September 23, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770 "2010-09-23T14:55:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/21 "2010-09-25T00:12:01Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The Pit.

And occasionally in ATMB where there are summarily banned for being trolls. :dubious:

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/22 "2010-09-25T03:54:41Z")

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They are currently unavailable for comment, as they’re being used for breeding purposes.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/23 "2010-09-25T03:58:42Z")

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Whichever side can shout out the other wins. The SDMB is ruled by consensus reality.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/24 "2010-09-25T04:20:13Z")

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The winners aren’t posted, but it’s usually clear if someone actually won the debate, as the other side will just start using rhetorical tactics instead of actually debating.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/25 "2010-09-26T06:14:03Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The winners aren’t posted, but it’s usually clear if someone actually won the debate, as the other side will just start using rhetorical tactics instead of actually debating.

That’s an association fallacy.

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/26 "2010-09-26T10:12:00Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > The winners aren’t posted, but it’s usually clear if someone actually won the debate, as the other side will just start using rhetorical tactics instead of actually debating.
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> That’s an association fallacy.

First off, good one.

Second, I’m afraid I was unclear. The debate is lost when you have stopped making your point, but continue posting. Pointing out a fallacy, for example, is not a concession of defeat, but if that’s all you are doing, you have effectively ended the debate. One can find a fallacy in everything, but, most often, there is an underlying premise that can and should be debated.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/27 "2010-09-26T12:18:38Z")

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So what does it mean when someone starts posting serious arguments in a joke thread?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/28 "2010-09-26T12:35:46Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> So what does it mean when someone starts posting serious arguments in a joke thread?

Then you know you’re on the Dope.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/29 "2010-09-26T17:03:19Z")

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I’m the winner of every single thread, even the ones I don’t post in. Especially those.😉

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/30 "2010-09-28T11:47:07Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> So what does it mean when someone starts posting serious arguments in a joke thread?

Actually, I just didn’t realize it was a joke until I’d already written most of the rest of it.

And it is one way to win a thread–be the only one making an argument. 😛

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/31 "2010-09-28T14:07:23Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> The winners always know who we are. There’s no need to advertise it.

Right. This is a matter for _ **us** _.

Why are Other People always asking about things like this?

_- Jack_

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/32 "2010-09-28T14:15:18Z")

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Anyone whose ignorance has been successfully fought is a winner.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/33 "2010-09-28T14:19:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Anyone whose ignorance has been successfully fought is a winner.

Exactly. In other words, there are no winners.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/34 "2010-09-28T15:57:18Z")

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Sometimes simply being able to preserve one’s own non-ignorance counts as a win, too. 😉

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-in-the-great-debates-forum-where-are-the-winners-posted/554770/35 "2010-09-28T19:12:46Z")

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I don’t know about that.

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