# So. Is Jesus still, uh. up there? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 1, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181 "2003-12-01T03:45:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/1 "2003-12-01T03:45:29Z")
Like in Heaven? Body and all? I say if you believe the bible, then yes he is. Christian teachings, to me, make a point of saying so. Peace, mangeorge ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/2 "2003-12-01T03:48:56Z")
No. He came back within the lifetime of his disciples, just like he said he would, and we are currently living in either heaven or Hell(take your pick). ---
**Author:** ![Sinungaling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Sinungaling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinungaling)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/3 "2003-12-01T04:03:29Z")
That’s one position. However, according to the Apostle’s Creed of several churches, including Catholicism: > [@](#): > > [He] was crucified, died, and was buried; > he descended to the dead. > On the third day he rose again; > he ascended into heaven, > he is seated at the right hand of the Father, > and he will come again to judge the living and the dead. The idea of his spirit _and_ body being in Heaven is implied by the fact that his tomb was empty. Or maybe it’s explicity spelled out somewhere, I can’t remember offhand. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/4 "2003-12-01T04:09:53Z")
Oops. I _forgot_ to say that no, I don’t think so. No man gets to do that until Judgement Day. But I don’t believe that either. I’ll take hell. Yeah, make this one hell. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![thirdwarning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thirdwarning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdwarning)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/5 "2003-12-01T04:16:05Z")
According to the Bible, the body that was resurrected, which was somewhat different from the one that died, in that He could move through walls and such, and move from place to place instantaneously, was assumed into heaven sometime before Pentecost. So, yeah, he’s still there, and will be until he comes back again. ---
**Author:** ![sweetfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@sweetfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweetfreak)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/6 "2003-12-01T04:21:24Z")
Up where? Did the aliens get him? I thought he was buried in a tomb, like many other wise leaders. That would mean he is _down_ there, right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ImNotMad2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f08c70/32.png) [@ImNotMad2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImNotMad2)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/7 "2003-12-01T04:56:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sweetfreak \* > \*\*Up where? > Did the aliens get him? > I thought he was buried in a tomb, like many other wise leaders. > That would mean he is _down_ there, right? 😃 \*\* He _was_ buried in a tomb. The tomb was later found empty. No, aliens didn’t get him; over 500 people saw him alive after his death. (1 Corinthians 15:5-8) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/8 "2003-12-01T05:03:53Z")
Actually, one person(identity uncertain) made the claim that 500 people saw him alive after his death. (1 Corinthians 15:5-8) ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/9 "2003-12-01T05:06:22Z")
The gospels seem to give slightly different interpretations of this. Mark, in its obsession with a very real and very soon day or reckoning, certainly seems to emphasize the idea that Jesus went away, and is coming back in a big way. But the later Gospels seem to imply that he’s more omnipresent: still with people. > [@](#): > > No, aliens didn’t get him; over 500 people saw him alive after his death. These clauses are not contradictory. It is perfectly possible that, even if you accept the Biblical statement of 500 witnesses, that his body was abducted by aliens, reanimated, and sent back to freak people out. Personally, I favor the “Jesus was a vampire” conspiracy theory. Drink of me, and live forever. ---
**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/10 "2003-12-01T05:20:24Z")
I thought when he came back he had no body a’tall; thus the ‘Holy Ghost’ appellation. ---
**Author:** ![thirdwarning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thirdwarning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdwarning)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/11 "2003-12-01T06:34:47Z")
Would have been difficult for him to be eating with the apostles and allowing his wounds to be touched, if he didn’t have a body. The Holy Ghost is the third person of the Trinity, Jesus is the second. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/12 "2003-12-02T00:27:51Z")
I’ll admit that “up there” is a cop-out, and that many religious teachings today shy away from the location thing. But the bible _does_ say flat-out that Jesus the man, in the flesh, is out there some where. We were taught that he was (is) a man in all ways. So he has to breath, eat, stay warm, poop and piss, etc. His wounds have surely healed by now. So is there this really old hippy dude hanging out at Nations, munching a cheeseburger, and waiting for The Day? ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/13 "2003-12-02T01:07:49Z")
The way I understand it, is, He was bodily resurrected (Easter!) and is in Heaven in His resurrected body, the kind we will have after we get there. But I’m sure He can travel.😉 ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/14 "2003-12-02T01:21:07Z")
No. Because the whole thing is a put-on. People like to talk about how many people saw him rise from the dead, but reappearing _only to one’s friends_ & _only for 40 days_ isn’t much of a resurrection. He didn’t come back to _earthly life_, which leads me to believe he didn’t come back to life at all. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/15 "2003-12-02T01:47:23Z")
I think you’re right, **foolsguinea**. The writers found themselves faced with a real problem. They could let Jesus rot (where’s the bones, man?) like anyone else, just as the bible said he should, or they could pull some magic and resurrect him. Now this created yet another chink, so they threatened any skepticism with charges of heresy, where heresy = disbelief. There’s no place for Jesus to go, 'cept right here. ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/16 "2003-12-02T01:50:46Z")
He’s still dead. He always has been. He wasn’t the son of God, IMO, just a guy with some interesting ideas. Let him become compost. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Hicks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbce88/32.png) [@Ben\_Hicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben_Hicks)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/17 "2003-12-02T01:55:54Z")
> [@](#): > > **Originally posted by Czarcasm** > No. He came back within the lifetime of his disciples, just like he said he would, and we are currently living in either heaven or Hell(take your pick). That’s a pretty interesting approach. Can you elaborate on it a bit please? ---
**Author:** ![ZOmegaZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ebca7d/32.png) [@ZOmegaZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZOmegaZ)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/18 "2003-12-02T01:57:12Z")
He appeared to people who hadn’t met him, as well. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/19 "2003-12-02T02:00:03Z")
No, **Gadfly** , surely not “just a guy”. Arguably the most historically significant “guy” who ever lived, . And a _good_ guy, according to my sources. 😃 But not a god, I agree. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181/20 "2003-12-02T02:07:13Z")
so when He actualyl comes back, I’m supposing you guys will say, gee vanilla, you were right after all. ? 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-jesus-still-uh-up-there/216181.md?page=2)