# So is Ketanji Brown Jackson getting on the Supreme Court or not?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573 "2022-03-23T16:32:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/41 "2022-03-24T00:07:19Z")

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Because he feels that Biden repeatedly insulted him.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/42 "2022-03-24T00:12:17Z")

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Why does he feel so?

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/43 "2022-03-24T00:14:35Z")

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I would imagine it would be from being called out by the administration for not supporting legislation that Biden was pushing (voting rights, infrastructure, etc.)

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/44 "2022-03-24T00:15:19Z")

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So you think he’s going to switch parties? Or that he thinks that his fellow Democrats would swallow a no vote on a Supreme Court pick “because they need him”?

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/45 "2022-03-24T00:24:34Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Isn’t he screwed already? He’s anti-Trump.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> His approval rating among Republican voters in Utah in February was 51% (and he has a similar approval rating among Democrats).

Of all the deep red states Utah is perhaps the most resistant to Trump love (I won’t go so far as to say full on “anti-Trump”). [Some](https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2021/12/08/poll-most-utahns-dont/) [semi-random](https://apnews.com/article/elections-donald-trump-campaigns-utah-religion-b022ced040984538d0faa903170bad1c) [google cites](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/24/mike-lee-trump-primary-utah-00010146).

He kind of clashes with Mormon Republican culture. Romney may not be quite beloved, but Trump is less so.

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**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/46 "2022-03-24T00:32:22Z")

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I think that whether he switches depends on what the Rs can offer. He doesn’t need anything that Democrats can offer him that would outweigh the satisfaction of revenge. And there are plenty of Democrats who think they need him at any price.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/47 "2022-03-24T00:37:36Z")

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You think Joe Manchin, a grown-up United States Senator, would vote against a Supreme Court nominee solely because the President hurt his feelings?

I think Manchin deserves more credit than that. His party has been talking shit about him for years, but where’s the evidence that he’s ever cast a vote out of pique? He has his positions where he deliberately runs counter to the national Democratic party – he could not survive as a Democrat in West Virginia otherwise. But on the big votes, he has routinely been with the party.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/48 "2022-03-24T00:45:09Z")

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That grown up United States Senator went on Fox to torpedo his party’s President’s signature bill, then pouted and stamped his feet after that President indirectly called him out in the State of the Union.

So, whatever.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/49 "2022-03-24T03:13:37Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> It’s one thing to force a couple of mid-level executive branch nominees to withdraw by announcing his opposition

This is key. I’m positive that Manchin was approached and his vote locked in before she was nominated. If he was going to stonewall then they would have gone with someone else.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/50 "2022-03-24T04:22:17Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> You think Joe Manchin, a grown-up United States Senator, would vote against a Supreme Court nominee solely because the President hurt his feelings?..

Yes, yes I do think Manchin would vote no. All he cares about is keeping his seat so he can line his pockets with coal lobbyists money and get a bigger yacht. He’s a piece of shit.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/51 "2022-03-24T05:23:40Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> All he cares about is keeping his seat so he can line his pockets with coal lobbyists money and get a bigger yacht.

No doubt, but how does sand bagging his own party and voting against this nominee help with this goal, all it does is burn his bridges. This isn’t like the build back better where having it pass would directly hurt the profits of this lobbiest friends. In this case with the court stacked 6-3 pro-business her confirmation isn’t going to affect profits, and she really isn’t any worse than any other person that Biden might nominate.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/52 "2022-03-24T10:43:29Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I would like to see sex crimes, and nazism, stop being the political catch-all hobby horse used when one party wants to tar a candidate or nominee.

One side: our opponents have imaginary pedo rings running out of pizza shops everywhere

The other side: there are serious, credible accusations that someone is a sexual predator, and we should investigate

One side: uses actual nazi imagery as a wink to the white supremacist base they’re actually catering to

Other side: calls them out on it

Man, both sides are just as bad and they really ruined politics.

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> this some bullshit

Regardless of whether she’s confirmed or not, this is definitely some bullshit.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/54 "2022-03-24T11:50:26Z")

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@lum_s_husband I agree that Manchin is in the pocket of the coal industry. However, the coal industry does not gain anything by trying to stop Jackson.

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I would like to see sex crimes, and nazism, stop being the political catch-all hobby horse used when one party wants to tar a candidate or nominee.

These matters have to be litigated. If we put any sort of constraint on that, then very shortly we would have a slate of nominees who are literal sex criminals and nazis. I mean, in addition to the ones who actually are.

I think what you really want here is for politicians to stop lying, but we know that’s unrealistic, so we hope for slightly less unrealistic things.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/56 "2022-03-24T12:55:29Z")

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I agree, the coal industry doesn’t particularly care whether he votes for or against this nominee. They’re happy just keeping him bottling up hostile legislation as chair of Senate Energy and Natural Resources, so why rock the boat?

A stronger argument for a Manchin “no” vote would be that it might help him with voters in deep red West Virginia. But he’s already made his bed in this regard – the man voted three times to remove Donald Trump from office. He’d be deeply vulnerable in a Republican primary. His best political path is the very narrow one he’s on – keep up his reputation back home of being a Democrat but not one of “those” Democrats.

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I think the point of these questions is to give the politicians something to say other than “she’s a Black woman nominated by a Democrat” when they vote “no”.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/58 "2022-03-24T13:21:51Z")

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She gets in, I predict 53-47. But had Democrats not won both Georgia runoffs in 2020, then she doesn’t even get a hearing. Moscow Mitch would declare that no Democratic nominee would ever get past a Republican controlled Senate.

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I would like one of the Senators to ask her if it is legal for an employer to rule out all prospective employees if they are not black and female.

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nevermind

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