# So is Ketanji Brown Jackson getting on the Supreme Court or not? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573 "2022-03-23T16:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/161 "2022-03-26T21:22:47Z")
Of course, they don’t have to burn any energy attacking her. They have the whole nest of serpents to do it for them, such as [Charlie Kirk](https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-ketanji-brown-jackson-what-your-country-looks-critical-race-theory) then they can run with it as prepackaged bits. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/162 "2022-03-26T21:42:36Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > It was the best political move that Biden made in his career. Exactly. There’s a lot of armchair quarterbacks saying Biden should have or shouldn’t have said this or that. None of them are sitting in the White House right now. The iron law of politics is that you have to win your election if you want to do any good. Sometimes you have to say or do things that may cause you problems down the road. You still have to say or do them. It’s no exaggeration to say the Biden’s commitment to nominate a black woman justice saved his primary campaign. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/163 "2022-03-26T22:58:50Z")
Do you have any evidence for this? Because this sounds like a completely unsubstantiated assumption. There’s no guarantee that it didn’t lower his margin of victory rather than increase it. The demographics this was designed to appeal to was already overwhelmingly democratic. Sure, could it have given him a boost in voter participation? Maybe. But it might’ve also alienated people who were disgusted with Trump but not liberal and/or not on board with the sort of thinking that leads to picking people based on race/gender first. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/164 "2022-03-26T23:05:16Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Do you have any evidence for this? It had an outsized effect on the primary and without it there’s likely a different Dem nominee. > **[Opinion | Biden's 2020 campaign was luckier than most. This key endorsement...](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/inside-jim-clyburn-s-biden-election-endorsement-how-biden-almost-ncna1255414)** > > Very few endorsements carry weight in modern politics. In South Carolina, though, a perception had built up that Clyburn's imprimatur meant everything. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/165 "2022-03-26T23:36:34Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > If Joe Biden doesn’t pledge to nominate a black woman to the Supreme Court, someone else is President right now, most likely Trump. I really don’t believe that promise made much of a difference in how the votes played out. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/166 "2022-03-26T23:37:36Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I really don’t believe that promise made much of a difference in how the votes played out. You are wrong. Please read the article linked in post 164. ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/167 "2022-03-26T23:44:59Z")
[[Album] Credit to whomever did this bc it is hilarious ![](https://i.imgur.com/HbP5QrP.jpeg?fb "Credit to whomever did this bc it is hilarious") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/qVWCauZ) ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/168 "2022-03-27T00:37:05Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > If Joe Biden doesn’t pledge to nominate a black woman to the Supreme Court, someone else is President right now, most likely Trump. > > It was the best political move that Biden made in his career. What? Could you point to a voter that was on the fence but said internally, “Ah, black woman on the Supreme Court? Joe has my vote!” ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/169 "2022-03-27T00:37:45Z")
The point is that Biden was reeling going into the South Carolina primary, having finished fourth in Iowa and fifth in New Hampshire, and a very distant second to Bernie in Nevada. Rep Jim Clyburn’s endorsement – which he had all but conditioned on a candidate promising to name a black woman justice – helped Biden consolidate the black vote and convincingly win South Carolina. Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropped out afterward, leaving Biden as the only moderate in the race going into Super Tuesday where he essentially sealed up the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/170 "2022-03-27T00:37:49Z")
Jim Clyburn > **[Opinion | Biden's 2020 campaign was luckier than most. This key endorsement...](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/inside-jim-clyburn-s-biden-election-endorsement-how-biden-almost-ncna1255414)** > > Very few endorsements carry weight in modern politics. In South Carolina, though, a perception had built up that Clyburn's imprimatur meant everything. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/171 "2022-03-27T00:39:24Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > helped Biden consolidate the black vote and convincingly win South Carolina. He already had the black vote in SC. Is there evidence that this promise secured a vote? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/172 "2022-03-27T00:41:02Z")
It’s not that Biden’s pledge to nominate a black woman to the Supreme Court earned him a lot of votes. It earned him the right votes (black primary voters), in the right place (South Carolina), at the right time (the day of the SC primary). His big win in South Carolina changed the trajectory of the primary. He was dead in the water before it. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/173 "2022-03-27T00:44:00Z")
Evidence… > **[Latest Polls](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/south-carolina/)** > > The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/174 "2022-03-27T00:45:38Z")
Everyone knew that Biden would get the black vote in SC. Your cite is two years prior to the vote. And the precedent is bad. Pledge to appoint a redneck white boy farmer before Iowa to get some votes. Bad all around. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/175 "2022-03-27T00:46:25Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Your cite is two years prior to the vote. What? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/176 "2022-03-27T00:46:56Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > He already had the black vote in SC. Is there evidence that this promise secured a vote? Biden greatly overperformed what the polling was showing just a few days before the primary. I hate you for making me cite Chris Cillizza: [https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/politics/joe-biden-south-carolina-poll-bernie-sanders/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/politics/joe-biden-south-carolina-poll-bernie-sanders/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/177 "2022-03-27T00:49:44Z")
I concede my error. All that shows is that people rallied around the eventual nominee like how is happened in every primary when before we are wetting ourselves about a brokered convention. What is the evidence that his pledge solidified the black vote? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/178 "2022-03-27T00:49:45Z")
Here’s the 538 SC primary polling average. Clyburn’s endorsement (conditioned on Biden’s pledge) changed everything. [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nlFIJaXOvE__Fb1XX9_DuDp0LdmMTleixFaBuyc-v3jRbMZPWmz6_nlBpJz6juyNRT3RgR-7xyK1mDl_4-QTSZ0BQBjReEKNH95wNqmnCHhNvj7yWbmw3Ii6veO8FxCF6OFp7efIDQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by K S") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6bFxoniv51E1oMP6) ---
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I remember there were people on this board who said the Republicans would go easy on Biden’s nominee because it would still be a 6-3 conservative majority on the Court. Bet you feel _pretty silly_ now. ---
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Apparently she’s not “relatable” enough or some such too. [Tucker Carlson Questions If Ketanji Brown Jackson’s Views Are Black Enough | HuffPost](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-ketanji-brown-jackson-racism_n_623aa8e4e4b0c727d484f7eb/amp) So she should have been a little more black? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pE5pl9UG93I/maxresdefault.jpg "Hollywood Shuffle (10/12) Movie CLIP - I Can't Do This (1987) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE5pl9UG93I) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573.md?page=10)