# So... Is Osama Bin Laden the Antichrist? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 15, 2001, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566 "2001-10-15T21:18:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566/21 "2001-10-16T13:54:39Z")
rushtopher! LOL And Mr. McFeely is the False prophet! ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566/22 "2001-10-16T13:59:32Z")
I’ve always been pretty sure that Bob Barker is the antichrist for some reason. He seems creepy in an intangible way. jarbaby ---
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566/23 "2001-10-16T15:23:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Considering that the Antichrist is supposed to be a charismatic figure who will draw all men to him, I’d say Osama bin Laden doesn’t qualify. \*\* Okay, but we’ve got a Western perspective here. I’d say Osama is beloved by many in the Islamic nations (whether or not those people support terror attacks, OBL is seen as standing up vs. that big bully, USA). ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566/24 "2001-10-16T16:21:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by toadspittle \* > \*\*I’d say Osama is beloved by many in the Islamic nations (whether or not those people support terror attacks, OBL is seen as standing up vs. that big bully, USA). \*\* Ok, but seeing as Muslims aren’t Chistian, it would bbe kind of hard for him to be their antichrist, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566/25 "2001-10-16T18:32:12Z")
Scriptural stuff on the Antichrist: > [@](#): > > Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22) > > And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (1 John 4:3) > > For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. (2 John 1:7) > > Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Matthew 24:23-24) From a post by me in [a pit thread devoted to Wildest Bill](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=61561&pagenumber=3): > [@](#): > > About the Antichrist: We’re told in Scripture that he will be subtle enough to, “if it were possible, deceive the very elect.” Somebody who takes a strict anti-Christian stance and preaches “Evil-ution” is not gonna stand a snowball’s chance in Satan’s sauna of deceiving the likes of FriendofGod, Navigator, Mike M., and Lauralee [four Christian posters Bill and I were acquainted with] and you know that as well as I do. \*It’s gonna be somebody who is an oily preacher selling his own brand of hate disguised as Scriptural interpretation, somebody who will steal your freedom to take “fat burners” and run the roads, and post your opinion on public bulletin boards, and will justify doing it in the name of Christ. **He’s** the evil you want to watch out for. Fenris, if you’re still reading the thread you started, you might want to remember that Spider Robinson made a buck for three years writing a column devoted to the proposition that we’re now living through “The Crazy Years” – and got not one letter disagreeing with his thesis. And then remember what comes next: Nehemiah Scudder. I trust this makes clear where I see the potential for Antichrist. And yes, if my guess is right, he _did_ rear his ugly head in September 2001. But not as Osama bin Laden. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566/26 "2001-10-16T18:36:39Z")
Help! Would some Moderate person be so kind as to add the missing quote mark in my attempted link to the Pit thread, and close the italics after “the evil you want to watch out for” Thanks. Sincerely, An Incompetent Coder :o ---
**Author:** ![More\_Cowbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@More\_Cowbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/More_Cowbell)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566/27 "2001-10-16T19:05:12Z")
IIRC, the term “anti” as used does not mean “against” but rather “in the place of”. If this being the case, then Polycarp’s quote (as incompetently coded as it is ;)) reinforces that translation. I would think that someone like Fred Phelps or Jack Chick would be anti-christs. They take Jesus’ message of peace and love and place their message of hate and intolerance in it’s place. ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566/28 "2001-10-16T19:26:23Z")
Since the antichrist denies Jesus is the Christ and Son, that makes Israel a nation of antichrists. Maybe ObL and his ilk are trying to do us a favor by going against those evil antichrists. \ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-osama-bin-laden-the-antichrist/87566.md?page=1)