# So it's not just the Catholics **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368 "2019-02-11T21:55:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/21 "2019-02-18T12:19:25Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Yeah, he was just fucking with us, there. Sounds kije something from the Simpsons. There’s [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touched:_The_Jerry_Sandusky_Story) just as egregious of an example. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/22 "2019-02-18T12:44:24Z")
I’m thinking the police has a good format for this, with how they arranged their own internal police, aka Internal Affairs. At least they acknowledge that sooner or later people will abuse the power of the profession and that you need a system in place to curb this. Bad cops don’t get transferred, they get fired or prosecuted, ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/23 "2019-02-18T12:47:25Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > Public schools [may be even worse](http://childrenstreatmentcenter.com/sexual-abuse-teachers/). Wow, that is bad, and should be more widely known. But I didn’t see anything specific about “public” schools and that summary of studies. I think private (including parochial) schools are included in those stats — though it’s true the vast majority of students are indeed in public schools. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/24 "2019-02-18T15:57:42Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > I’m thinking the police has a good format for this, with how they arranged their own internal police, aka Internal Affairs. At least they acknowledge that sooner or later people will abuse the power of the profession and that you need a system in place to curb this. Bad cops don’t get transferred, they get fired or prosecuted, But other organizations don’t need their own Internal Affairs. They can just go to the actual police, instead of trying to deal with it internally. It’s the fact that they did try to deal with this internally instead of calling the police that led to this shitshow. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/25 "2019-02-20T22:16:12Z")
Not just the Catholics, but Catholics have all of the very best excuses for child rape. This American Cardinal, Raymond Leo Burke, had this to say to Bishops: “The plague of the homosexual agenda has been spread within the Church, promoted by organized networks and protected by a climate of complicity and a conspiracy of silence,” He, along with a German Cardinal claim that this is why Catholic priests rape children. And god continues to not strike these motherfuckers, pardon me- children fuckers down. > **[Two cardinals blame ‘plague of the homosexual agenda’ for clerical sexual abuse](https://thehill.com/homenews/news/430828-two-cardinals-blame-plague-of-the-homosexual-agenda-for-clerical-sexual-abuse/)** > > Two cardinals claimed Tuesday that homosexuality was to blame for the abuse by clerics in the Catholic Church.”We turn to you with deep distress! The Catholic world is adrift,” U.S… ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/26 "2019-02-21T15:57:20Z")
[LDS Bishop Arrested In Human Trafficking Sting](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/lds-bishop-arrested-in-human-trafficking-sting/ar-BBTTiS2) > [@](#): > > A bishop in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) was removed from his post after he was arrested during a human trafficking sting in Lehi, Utah. > > David N. Moss, 51, is accused of contacting online women he believed to be prostitutes and claiming he could manage them. Moss, a former police vice squad lieutenant, was arrested on Tuesday for exploiting a prostitute, patronizing a prostitute, two counts of lewdness and sexual battery. LDS Bishop AND an ex cop. :(☹ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/27 "2019-02-21T18:26:58Z")
I think the only solution and the only way that the Catholic church is ever going to change is for its parishioners to change it for them - by not attending services anymore. Even though I’m not a Christian, I can generally appreciate the tenets of the Catholic church, but the persistent, recurrent problem that it faces is its refusal to allow outside intervention. It needs to stop with this idea that it can police itself; it needs to do what Penn State did and what other institutions do when they have a crisis: they need to allow for outside intervention. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’re capable of it. The Catholic Church’s handling of pedophiles reminds me a lot of how notoriously bad police departments handle dirty cops. You have a majority of people in the institution who are probably not that dirty, but through their inaction and silence, willingly and knowingly enable those who are dirty to get away with their bad deeds. I suspect that one of the reasons that the Catholic church is reluctant to agree to reforms and to allow greater transparency is that many, many of them probably fear what transparency would reveal. It seems like an institution-wide cover up. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/28 "2019-02-21T18:40:15Z")
You seem to think that “the Catholic church” means exclusively the priests. Those of us who belong to it don’t agree with that definition. ---
**Author:** ![BeeGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5a626/32.png) [@BeeGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeeGee)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/29 "2019-02-21T19:15:57Z")
Even if the SBC grew a pair and said “We do not allow sexual predators to become Southern Baptist ministers!”, since each church decides among themselves who will be their pastor, there’s no teeth in the enforcement. Someone mentioned that in the last 20 years or so, the SBC has removed a handful of churches from the convention who ordained gay deacons or female ministers. My church was one of those churches. You know how they chastised us? They no longer accepted our money. We could not contribute to the SBC mission fund. Now they do need to get out there and help smaller and poorer congregations screen their candidates. And not try to sweep allegations under the rug. Baylor took a pretty big hit a few years ago. I was surprised that they hired Pepper Hamilton in the first place, and then that they actually agreed to act on the report and fire Briles. Not to mention deep six the duplicitous and hypocritical Ken Starr. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368/30 "2021-07-30T15:07:09Z")
McCarrick has been charged. > **[Former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick criminally charged for alleged sex abuse of...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/us/theodore-mccarrick-sexual-abuse/index.html)** > > Former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, who was defrocked by The Vatican in 2019 over sex abuse allegations, is now facing criminal charges in Massachusetts for alleged sex abuse of a minor nearly 50 years ago, according to a court filing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-not-just-the-catholics/829368.md?page=1)