# So it's okay to call another poster "goddamn liar" in IHMO now?  Was it always okay?

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**Created:** [April 23, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472 "2013-04-23T04:26:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/1 "2013-04-23T04:26:54Z")

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So – It’s okay now to post vitriol like this, and directly call another poster a “liar” and a “goddamned liar” in IHMO? Was it always okay?

Doing some research, I just discovered: IMHO doesn’t have any sticky with forum rules like (some or all) other forums do! So this is okay in IMHO? Really? Even the Pit has rules!

> [@Men's Rights Movement may have a big future.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/308):
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> You are a liar. Google does not autocorrect “paternity leave” to “maternity leave”.
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> \< . . . \>
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> I’m starting to see the problem here. You’re a goddamned liar about everything you bring up, and that’s why nobody is interesting in debating you. You can barely be arsed to cite anything, and when people DO bring you citations you can’t even READ them correctly enough to parse what they say. Good luck with your MRA propaganda wall-o’-text diatribes buddy.

> [@Men's Rights Movement may have a big future.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/347):
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> That isn’t autocorrect. He is a liar. And report away.

Please tell me that **Ellen Cherry** , **Gukumatz** , and **Idle Thoughts** have simply been out of town lately or busy with final exams or something, and that they’ve just gotten a little behind in the modding.

With the recent multi-thread multi-forum shit-storm in the last week or so (you know what I’m talking about), one wonders if even the mods have a clear view of what should be modded any more.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/2 "2013-04-23T04:37:14Z")

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I understand that mods will sometimes not hand out warnings if they don’t read the post in question and the post in question may not be read _if it is not reported_. Just saying.

With that as background, I opine that your links merited mod action. YMMV, IANAM.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/3 "2013-04-23T04:40:03Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I understand that mods will sometimes not hand out warnings if they don’t read the post in question and the post in question may not be read _if it is not reported_. Just saying.
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> With that as background, I opine that your links merited mod action. YMMV, IANAM.

Did report the first of the above-quoted posts. See post immediately before the second above-quoted one.

ETA: Lots of other vitriol in that thread, too, even if they didn’t have outright insults like that. Don’t know how high the temperature is allowed to get before the mods get all into it.

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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/4 "2013-04-23T07:20:07Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Please tell me that **Ellen Cherry** , **Gukumatz** , and **Idle Thoughts** have simply been out of town lately or busy with final exams or something, and that they’ve just gotten a little behind in the modding.

I’ve heard they went out drinking at a pub called Biers. It caters to a certain clientele, I’m told. I don’t think we will hear from them soon.  
Mind you, that is what I heard, I know nothing.😉

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/5 "2013-04-23T07:27:03Z")

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Well, so long as it is, in fact, your humble opinion, maybe.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/6 "2013-04-23T08:11:41Z")

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But you gotta be sure to say the word “humble” in there. If you just say its your opinion that someone is a “goddamn liar” the ban hammer starts getting twitchy fast.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/7 "2013-04-23T08:18:17Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> But you gotta be sure to say the word “humble” in there. If you just say its your opinion that someone is a “goddamn liar” the ban hammer starts getting twitchy fast.

The above-quoted posts didn’t acknowledge being opinions, and they sure didn’t say anything about being humble.

And **Foggy** (above) notwithstanding, I see that at least one of the IMHO mods has in fact been moderating other thread(s) in IMHO. (ETA: [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16223109&postcount=10) and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16223114&postcount=11).)

So far, I’m sticking with my hypothesis in the OP: When it comes to threads about gender issues, the mods just don’t know what to mod any more.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/8 "2013-04-23T08:25:39Z")

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Missed the god-damn edit window.

Fixed those links in above post:

[here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16223109&postcount=10) and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16223114&postcount=11).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/9 "2013-04-23T09:47:40Z")

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Don’t forget about the “mind reading” exception. There’s always that one.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/10 "2013-04-23T11:07:52Z")

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If, factually, the poster _was_ a goddamned liar, then I see no problem with a lady pointing it out.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/11 "2013-04-23T13:36:19Z")

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If you reported this, I am sorry I must have missed the report because I haven’t seen this post. Did you report it, Senegoid? If not, can you link me to the post please?

ETA: Never mind. I found it me’self.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/12 "2013-04-23T15:29:41Z")

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Just so you know, the mods are discussing it.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/13 "2013-04-23T15:34:35Z")

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It’s fine according to my wife, Ms. _Morgan Fairchild_.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/14 "2013-04-23T15:38:45Z")

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It’s like a sauna in here.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/15 "2013-04-23T15:48:13Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> It’s like a sauna in here.

That turns out not to be the case. HAH.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/16 "2013-04-23T19:54:48Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Just so you know, the mods are discussing it.

Thank you for taking it up.

If you don’t mind my asking, isn’t the case clear-cut?

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/17 "2013-04-23T19:58:14Z")

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But one question from the OP still remains, and it’s one that I have had for a while.

Why is there not a rules sticky for IMHO?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/18 "2013-04-23T21:29:13Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It’s fine according to my wife, Ms. _Morgan Fairchild_.

Whom I have slept with!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/19 "2013-04-24T01:02:17Z")

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I just saw a puff of white smoke. Hope it wasn’t my hard drive.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/20 "2013-04-24T01:24:01Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Whom I have slept with!

Well, let me just say I’ll have my doctor contact your doctor and he can get you that cream for you know what.

Though I did enjoy the special swirl at the end.

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