# So it's okay to call another poster "goddamn liar" in IHMO now?  Was it always okay?

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Well, accusing someone of lying or calling them a liar is against the rules in Great Debates, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be in IMHO.

Well, yes, and furthermore: There’s that generic FAQ that lists the general board-wide rules (with specific exceptions as noted), and it says there also that direct insults are forbidden except in the Pit. I think it mentions specifically not to call someone a liar (I think).

To all the Mods:

So there was debate among you as to whether that was jerkish, insulting, and/or threadshitting? :rolleyes:

Note, though, that my original OP in this thread mentioned a more general problem: There was a _whole lot_ of serious jerkism going on there, and a whole lot of nasty shouting-down of the original attempted discussion. (Setting aside any merits or lack thereof, of the original topic.) Did you guys review the last few pages? There was stuff like this (underlining added by me):

> [@Men's Rights Movement may have a big future.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/341):
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> \<snip…\>
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> I guess it’s hard to defend a hate movement built on distortions and falsehoods. Everything you post either doesn’t say what you claim, or can’t be cited, or isn’t evidence of institutional discrimination against men. Bleh, I’m done. I need a shower after talking to you.

and like this:

> [@Men's Rights Movement may have a big future.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/303):
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> It’s likely a consequence of how Google’s personalized search algorithms work. It’s rigged in favor of steering you towards the same kinds of websites that you’ve clicked on in the past. When **(Name redacted)** searches for “feminism”, his top result is going to be a link to a gentleman’s website hosting the SCUM manifesto.

Is that jerkish? Is that insulting? In the context of the thread, is that threadshitting?

In that entire misogyny shit-storm, you guys did nothing to suggest that you would prevent this kind of stuff, nor resolve how you would intend to handle it in the future. I hope you mean to say now that you will find the right way to deal with this stuff now.

Okay, I see you gave **(Name redacted)** a mod note. In a more perfect world, it should have been a warning, and maybe that’s how you will deal with it from now on. But I understand that the rule had somehow been ambiguous all along, and I hope you are clarifying it now. So a mod note. I guess. Gee, all that squabbling all week over Rule #1 didn’t obviously apply here?

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