# So it's okay to call another poster "goddamn liar" in IHMO now? Was it always okay? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 23, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472 "2013-04-23T04:26:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 33
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472/33 "2013-04-25T03:46:45Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > You are really prickled by this aren’t you, **Senegoid**. You really think the parts you highlighted in the posts above rise to the level of needing to be moderated? You refer vaguely to “this kind of stuff” without specifying what it actually is. Snark? Sarcasm? You’re concerned with overzealous moderation of misogyny but suddenly this is the level of moderator involvement you would prefer to see? I’m somewhat skeptical as to your sincerity here. Lemme try to address this calmly. Yes, I’m prickled. They were trying to discuss men’s issues, admittedly at controversial flash-point topic in these climes. And I understand that there were some disputes about what certain linked articles actually were saying. I made clear that I’m not addressing the merits of that here. The people I complained about above, and some others, I felt were threadshitting that discussion. (I know I’m not supposed to say that here, but you asked.) The parts I quoted (as examples), and especially the parts I underlined, I thought smelt of flame wars. My complaint about misogyny vs. misandry moderation were only tangentially touched upon in the whole misogyny wars this week, and not addressed further as they need to be. The complaint lies in the hypocrisy of _heavily_ moderating any perceived misogyny, even to the silly extents that (e.g.) **Happy Lendervedder** ’s and **April R** mild sex snark/sarcasm were modded in the Sorority Drama Queen thread, and in one of the ATMB threads we learned that we can’t use the word “hysterical” any more. That’s petty and silly. Boob pix requests? Fair enough to complain about that, especially in the medical info thread. (Did that finally get modded? I wasn’t following that thread.) While, on the other hand, **CCitizen** , **Ibanez** , **blindboyard** and others were trying to discuss their men’s issues and were getting flamed out for it, to the extent of calling MRM a “hate movement built on distortions and falsehoods”, and **bb** was implied to be spending his time on “a gentleman’s website hosting the SCUM manifesto.” The whole MRM topic may be controversial, but I didn’t think any of them used any kind of inflammatory language that warranted responses like that. So my complaint is, first, that these kinds of flames were being posted (and I think there was similar inflammatory language sprinkled throughout the whole misogyny flame wars this week); and second, that the moderators weren’t doing anything about it (but I’m okay with some of that in ATMB because it dealt with ATMB issues and couldn’t go in the Pit where it otherwise belonged, and the mods were allowing a lot of pressure venting there). And yes, I’m prickled, even though I only participated slightly and somewhat tangentially in all those threads. Why? Because everything I’ve said here all leads me to understand that I mustn’t dare discuss my own men’s issues here on SDMB (I’ve only hinted sporadically about them over the last year or so), lest I get flamed too, as I’ve seen happen to others with mathematical regularity here. You see misogyny everywhere you look, but a lot of men see male-hostile and misandry too, in real life, and on SDMB too. ETA: And I’m prickled too (I think a better word could be found than prickled here), that _every_ mens’ issue gets flamed with “Oh, another guy not getting his daily dose of pussy.” That’s (usually) an insult and (usually) a threadshit. Here’s one from the thread in question: > [@Men's Rights Movement may have a big future.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/20): > > That’s exactly what I was thinking. Seems like every book or website devoted to men’s rights devotes half the text to complaints about custody and financial support after divorce, and half to complaints about being denied a rightful proportion of pussy guaranteed by our constitution or some blather. Seriously reduces the legitimacy of the entire campaign. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-its-okay-to-call-another-poster-goddamn-liar-in-ihmo-now-was-it-always-okay/656472)._