# So I've changed my mind: Donald Trump is pursuing a rational, intelligent strategy **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 25, 2017, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119 "2017-01-25T05:28:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/41 "2017-01-27T16:13:01Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > At this point those who support him have two choices: Either recognize his screw-ups for what they are(Mexico, anybody?), or keep on insisting that the Emperor’s new clothes are _très magnifique!_ Nah, they are going to blame Democrats for ‘forcing’ them to vote for him. They are already making that excuse over in the ‘Why did you vote for Trump’ thread. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/42 "2017-01-27T16:16:25Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well it is an strategy that works to win elections, but like Berlusconi showed, not a smart one or rational for everyone else. No matter. Winning is all Trump cares about. Winning is the moral thing to do. if you win, you were right, and if you win, you were good, and better. [It’s a religion.](http://www.cracked.com/blog/trumps-bizarre-religion-weirder-than-scientology/) Another prediction: I predict that the “insiders in the White House, close to Trump” that leaked info like this ([WaPo article about Trump being enraged about news coverage re: u crowd sizes)](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-first-days-inside-trumps-white-house-fury-tumult-and-a-reboot/2017/01/23/7ceef1b0-e191-11e6-ba11-63c4b4fb5a63_story.html?utm_term=.ffe0e5448ee7) will NOT be prosecuted by Trump, but will turn out to be a conscious media strategy by Trump. Or rather, by Rupert Murdoch and Bannon. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/43 "2017-01-27T16:20:11Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > This is a tired refrain, not a novel observation. Every Trump supporter ever says he’s “crazy like a fox”, because they all recognize that he consistently says and does really ignorant, pointless, rambling and counterproductive things and they don’t want to admit that they just voted for the guy with the “R” by his name (most Republicans) or the guy who is most clearly racist and xenophobic (the hardcore koolaid drinking Trumpsters). But that’s the interesting part, isn’t it? I mean, imagine he keeps rambling on about stuff that seems pointless and ignorant, like you were just saying. And imagine people keep saying he’s ‘crazy like a fox’ like you were just saying – for the reasons you were just saying – and imagine, too, that the whole approach _eventually gets him re-elected,_ just like it got him elected. Do we come back to this same thread, and make the same points again? Sure, if he gets removed from office as a laughingstock, that’s a whole different conversation. But if he keeps on doing what he’s been doing, are there _any_ results that – over the course of four or eight years – should make us tilt our heads to the side and say, _wait, isn’t that indistinguishable from crazy-like-fox cleverness?_ ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/44 "2017-01-27T16:28:10Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > I see 36% now. [His RCP average is currently 44.5%](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/45 "2017-01-27T16:28:28Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > _“Never, ever, ever underestimate Trump!”_ > > ~Harry Reid > > _“You can’t win! He will always find a way to outsmart you!”_ > > ~Former wife Ivana Trump _“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”_ ~Donald J. Trump (Current President of the United States) ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/46 "2017-01-27T16:31:24Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > _“Never, ever, ever underestimate Trump!”_ > > ~Harry Reid > > _“You can’t win! He will always find a way to outsmart you!”_ > > ~Former wife Ivana Trump > > I have no idea whether I’m going to wind up happy or pissed off about the things that guy does. But I have no doubt whatsoever that he’s going to be very effective at it. > > You’ve posted a very interesting hypothesis that fits pretty well with what other posters are deriding as my saying that he’s playing 4th or 6th or 10th dimensional chess. I’ve said many times before that Donald Trump is rarely doing what he appears to be doing on the surface, and if your theory is correct this would be a perfect example of that. He’s not Hari Seldon for fuck’s sake. He’s not as stupid as his detractors imply but he’s no fucking Hope Hubris either. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/47 "2017-01-27T16:34:08Z")
“I’m going to vote for Trump because he gets what he wants and will always be able to outsmart me!” What kind of weird-ass logic is _this_? ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/48 "2017-01-27T16:36:38Z")
It’s worth noting that Paris Hilton employed the same strategy. Create a controversial persona that people love to get outraged about, and love to feel superior about. Play the media to keep the attention alive. Meanwhile cash in on your celebrity status. Paris also kept everybody guessing if she was crazy like a fox, or crazy like a rich vapid blond bimbo. Paris eventually got tired of it.[And she had reached her goals.](https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/paris-hilton-profile-2015-19-fragrances-and-counting-heiress) And she has kept out of the public eye since years. So looking up the limelight was a conscious choice for her, in hindsight. > [@](#): > > Neither Paris’s management nor Fox expected The Simple Life to succeed, Vorias says. … Paris directed herself. She created the “Paris talk and the ditziness” and famous one-liners. > > “Remember that line when she was like, ‘What’s Walmart?’ She knew what Walmart was,” Vorias says. “She created the line herself and made it something that she knew would be like a watercooler moment.” > > “When I was developing the character for The Simple Life I just was like, ‘This is your voice for the show, do it all the time,’” Paris says. “I think if you’re actually like that in real life, it’s, like, beyond. But if you’re in on the joke, you know what you’re doing, you’re aware of it, and you’re doing it purposefully, I think it’s actually smart.” ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/49 "2017-01-27T16:41:46Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump isn’t diverting attention away from some secret agenda. Calling attention to himself is his agenda. Which doesn’t rule out the theory that _letting Trump call attention to himself_ is someone else’s (the GOP’s? Trump’s “advisors”? Putin’s?) agenda. It’s not Trump pursuing a rational strategy; it’s other people pursuing a rational strategy by letting Trump be a ridiculous, narcissistic blowhard. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/50 "2017-01-27T16:43:56Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > _“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and …”_ > > ~Donald J. Trump (Current President of the United States) Holy fuck. Seriously? He’s unhinged. I mean I knew that, but sheeeeesss. What is that… whatever the fuck it is, from? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/51 "2017-01-27T16:51:01Z")
“He’s crazy-Like a fox!” -Chickens who voted for him ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/52 "2017-01-27T17:05:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The point you’re missing is that the person he outsmarted is **you**. He got you to believe his lies and give him your vote. For the record, I didn’t vote for him. And despite the posts I make pointing out the realities of his intelligence and the various and many ways he’s been successful (we are supposed to be fighting ignorance here), I would describe my feelings about his presidency as ‘apprehensively optimistic’. > [@czarcasm](#): > > “I’m going to vote for Trump because he gets what he wants and will always be able to outsmart me!” > What kind of weird-ass logic is this? It’s pretty weird, all right. And I doubt anyone voted for him because of it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/53 "2017-01-27T17:14:50Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > No matter. Winning is all Trump cares about. Winning is the moral thing to do. if you win, you were right, and if you win, you were good, and better. [It’s a religion.](http://www.cracked.com/blog/trumps-bizarre-religion-weirder-than-scientology/) Of course it does not matter anymore, he won, what I pointed stands too. What ended happening with Nixon or Berluscuni is what it is bound to happen next. > [@](#): > > Bill Emmott, former editor-in-chief of The Economist, rounds out our program with the imperial view from the editorial board of the magazine that went to war with [“the man who screwed an entire country.”](http://www.economist.com/node/18805327) > > The lessons learned from Berlusconi present a rather grim view of America’s future under Trump. But we also shouldn’t forget that one of the key appeals for both Silvio and the Donald lies in their consummate skills as entertainers. The old joke about Mussolini’s fascist leadership of Italy was that “at least he made the trains run on time.” For Berlusconi, the best that can be said, maybe, is that at least he could sing in tune ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/54 "2017-01-27T17:17:17Z")
> [@ITR\_champion](#): > > Here’s an article in Bloomberg making the same argument as my OP, with numbers to show that it’s working: [https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-25/trump-s-forever-war-of-diversion](https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-25/trump-s-forever-war-of-diversion) > > According to data collected by [BuzzSumo.com](http://BuzzSumo.com), the most widely shared CNN news story about Donald Trump since January 21 was one about Trump’s press secretary Sean Spicer attacking the media for their reporting on inauguration attendance. It was shared 169,700 times on Facebook. A story on Trump’s executive order to start rolling back Obamacare clocked just 71,100 shares. On The New York Times’ website, the most widely shared story debunkedSpicer’s “alternative facts.” It showed up on Facebook 170,900 times. The New York Times piece about Trump’s executive order abandoning the Trans-Pacific Partnership got 44,600 shares. > … > Trump’s and his team’s communications look awkward, inept, gallingly primitive. It’s time to wise up: These people know what they’re doing. They want their political opponents to be confused, to flail at windmills, to expend emotions on meaningless scandals to distract them from any targeted, coordinated action against specific threats. There are going to be many of these: Trump appears intent on keeping his promises. Calm concentration is needed to counteract dangerous policies. Well, maybe. Or maybe everyone is aware of the Obamacare order and the TPP killing, and it’s just not as much fun to send around those stories. That is, the 30 second byte that this has been done is not a surprise, and people note it and move on. But the story that Sean Spicer thinks he can rename “lies” into “Alternate Facts” is funny, amusing, and terrifying, and much more fun to talk about. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/55 "2017-01-27T17:30:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Of course it does not matter anymore, he won, what I pointed stands too. What ended happening with Nixon or Berluscuni is what it is bound to happen next. I doubt it. Nixon was the victim of twenty years of persecution by the press, outraged initially by his opposition to communism in the 50s and determined to do him in. In those days most people took the press (and the news itself) seriously. Nowadays the news media are so openly biased that no one takes them seriously anymore. The left unsurprisingly thinks they’re right on, and the right correctly thinks they play politics with their coverage. And then of course there’s the matter of social media these days, where Trump can speak directly to the people themselves to challenge what the media says about him. All of this means that the power of the news media to sway public opinion has been greatly reduced compared with the environment Nixon faced from the 50s to the early 70s. As for Berlusconi, I don’t know enough about him to comment, other than his perhaps having being done in by large-scale frolics with prostitutes and so forth. I doubt anything like that will happen with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/56 "2017-01-27T17:38:00Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [His RCP average is currently 44.5%](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html) I only can see Quinnipiac. some form of myopia, I suppose. Regardless of what the numbers seem to say, he didn’t get any more than 47% of those folks who voted, and, further, the true pain of his foolishness has yet to hit the folks who don’t know that their ACA insurance is Obamacare. His polling numbers are worse than his voting percent, largely because some small percent of his votes were ‘just to shake things up’ votes, and those folks are the first to have second thoughts, never having thought Thrump would actually be elected. They just wanted more excitement. Well, they are getting it. Better start practicing ‘Duck and Cover’ again. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/57 "2017-01-27T18:02:30Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Holy fuck. Seriously? He’s unhinged. I mean I knew that, but sheeeeesss. > > What is that… whatever the fuck it is, from? America’s Epitaph, potentially. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/58 "2017-01-27T18:08:50Z")
> [@ITR\_champion](#): > > Why not? > > I mean really, I think people need to give up on the notion that Trump is an idiot or mentally unstable. I realize that’s the first conclusion many people may have jumped to when Trump entered the race a year and a half ago. [I jumped to that conclusion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=792782), so I understand why others think so. But as I said, I’ve changed my mind. Trump is intelligent, self-controlled, and good at planning ahead. > > The proof is in the pudding: he won the Presidency. Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush and other candidates had legions of advisers with Ivy league education, highly-paid consultants and firms running every detail of their campaign, high-tech analyses telling them exactly where to go and what to do. Trump beat them all. Moreover, in the primary at least he did it with barely any staff and any spending. That has to count for something. > > It’s said that at the start of every war, both sides are preparing to fight the last war, i.e. they are assuming that tactics, strategy, and technology will be basically the same as it was in the past. Those few who can chuck out the old wisdom and adapt rapidly to changes tend to win. We are in a new media environment, where anyone on Twitter can communicate with millions of people without spending a dime. Where people watch more videos on YouTube than ads on TV. Where things like Breitbart are displacing the traditional media. Trump understands the new media environment and adapts to it. The other candidates are stuck in the past, raising huge piles of money and spending it on flooding TV channels with ads. It simply cannot be the case that Trump is a clueless idiot, blundering around without any understanding of what he’s doing. I don’t dispute that Trump ran a maverick campaign and prevailed against conventional wisdom and all the odds. But with regards to his presidency, I think that from an Occam’s Razor perspective, it is more likely that all of these benefits for the Republicans are unintentional rather than an intentional ploy. I don’t dispute for one moment that his Tweeting antics have the unintentional effect of letting Republicans get a lot of work done under the radar, but it’s hard to believe that this is an intelligent. deliberate strategy. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/59 "2017-01-27T18:09:21Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I doubt it. Nixon was the victim of twenty years of persecution by the press, outraged initially by his opposition to communism in the 50s and determined to do him in. In those days most people took the press (and the news itself) seriously. Nowadays the news media are so openly biased that no one takes them seriously anymore. Nevermind that the first part of the paragraph here contradicts the second. And the reality is that yes… He was a crook. in the end it was not the press but other republicans that realized he was a cad and did him in. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The left unsurprisingly thinks they’re right on, and the right correctly thinks they play politics with their coverage. And then of course there’s the matter of social media these days, where Trump can speak directly to the people themselves to challenge what the media says about him. All of this means that the power of the news media to sway public opinion has been greatly reduced compared with the environment Nixon faced from the 50s to the early 70s. The latest polls points to a free fall in support. I do think that for a long time it will remain on the 30-45 region for a long time… until a big misunderstanding, terror attack or trade war that turns violent; leading to a subsequent war where the president will get undeserved support, as usual. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > As for Berlusconi, I don’t know enough about him to comment, other than his perhaps having being done in by large-scale frolics with prostitutes and so forth. I doubt anything like that will happen with Trump. Of course, as a fundamentalist admitted to an NPR reported once, he voted for Trump because “the Old Testament is full of situations where God used even evil men to accomplish his will.” Never mind that that idea eventually leads to a catastrophic lose of influence and power. Like it was with the war against alcohol, the American people realized that it only gave more power to the gangsters and generated more violence. Nowadays the cabinet Trump as assembled is bound to continue with drug prohibitions that in reality generates more violence and crime, just as most of the American people were realizing how stupid that is/was. Having a fox guarding the hen house will make the contradiction and eventual republican defeat worse than if a better capable person had been in power. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119/60 "2017-01-27T19:02:09Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Holy fuck. Seriously? He’s unhinged. I mean I knew that, but sheeeeesss. > > What is that… whatever the fuck it is, from? It is from a [campaign speech](http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2015/07/31/donald_trump_this_run_on_sentence_from_a_speech_in_sun_city_south_carolina.html) in South Carolina in July. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-changed-my-mind-donald-trump-is-pursuing-a-rational-intelligent-strategy/778119.md?page=4)