# So I've found the most addicting game that exists on the internet. No, seriously

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 21, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356 "2013-09-21T00:39:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/61 "2013-09-22T00:26:52Z")

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Heh, heh, heh.

Yeah, grandmas are _good_.

You’ll learn, people, you’ll learn. 😉

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/62 "2013-09-22T00:39:35Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> I created a spreadsheet that calculates the “Dollars/CPS” cost for each new instance I buy of a particular producer. Right now, in order of best investment to worst investment, my list looks like this:
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> Antimatter Condenser  
> Cursor  
> Portal  
> Time Machine  
> Alchemy Lab  
> Shipment  
> Grandma  
> Mine  
> Factory  
> Farm
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> The last 3 (mine, factory, farm) are essentially worthless and I will never buy another one. I bought up to 100 to get the achievements for them, and then never again.
> 
> More than meets the eye huh? Hmm ok. I’ll keep going.

There’s a JavaScript that you can find to do the calculations for you, taking into account your various bonuses. Check the game forums. This will be a lot better than a spreadsheet in the long run.

Mines, factories and farms are pretty worthless, so you’re not missing much.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/63 "2013-09-22T01:20:41Z")

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> [@dracoi](#):
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> There’s a JavaScript that you can find to do the calculations for you, taking into account your various bonuses. Check the game forums. This will be a lot better than a spreadsheet in the long run.
> 
> Mines, factories and farms are pretty worthless, so you’re not missing much.

I’m at the point now where my buildings really don’t matter so much anymore. It’s all about the golden cookies. But if (really when I suppose) I click that reset button and start over again, I’ll look around for that script. Not sure what you mean by check the game forums though. Got a direct link?

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/64 "2013-09-22T01:30:26Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> I’m at the point now where my buildings really don’t matter so much anymore. It’s all about the golden cookies. But if (really when I suppose) I click that reset button and start over again, I’ll look around for that script. Not sure what you mean by check the game forums though. Got a direct link?

The script is called Cookie Monster. It also has a timer until the next Golden Cookie appears.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/65 "2013-09-22T02:17:34Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> The script is called Cookie Monster. It also has a timer until the next Golden Cookie appears.

Woohoo! Makes grabbing the golden cookies trivial.

I’m already cheating by using an autoclicker anyway.

Hey! Don’t judge! I’ve got other games to play… but can’t stop playing this until… I get… umm. a quintillion cookies?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/66 "2013-09-22T02:25:00Z")

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Funny how you get an achievement for cheating, eh? Like he expected people would do it.

I haven’t gotten it yet, I want to try to see how many “real” cookies I can get. 😛

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/67 "2013-09-22T02:38:42Z")

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I’m not that opposed to cheating, but I want to see what I can get on my own. Leaving the game running in a separate tab is cheatey enough for me right now.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/68 "2013-09-22T02:38:45Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Funny how you get an achievement for cheating, eh? Like he expected people would do it.
> 
> I haven’t gotten it yet, I want to try to see how many “real” cookies I can get. 😛

Yeah I haven’t gotten that achievement yet either because by “cheating” he means using the built-in cheating functions, I think. Auto-clickers and the Cookie Monster script don’t get caught as cheating… even though they really are

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/69 "2013-09-22T02:52:48Z")

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> [@BleizDu](#):
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> Amazing, I’ve spent the first few minutes going "man, how boring is that, why do people think it’s addictive?  
> And now six hours later, **I’m buying my 8th antimatter condenser.**

I swear to god, you people are just making shit up now to get me to click on the link.  
😃

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/70 "2013-09-22T03:04:32Z")

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This game really is just a slightly more interactive version of [Progress Quest](http://progressquest.com/). There’s not much “game” there, it’s just watching numbers go up and clicking every once in a while. It’s not even hard, you can’t really lose. It’s just a function of how long it takes to reach your arbitrary goal.

Which isn’t to say I don’t like it, but it ultimately is just a silly time waster where the point is to unlock all the funny news comments and convince yourself that you really need that anti-matter condenser.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/71 "2013-09-22T04:01:37Z")

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It’s like a bad relationship. After a while, you just stick around to see what happens next. You may not love the person anymore, you may want to go see other people, but you’ve stuck around for so long and have so much invested, it’s too hard to just walk away.

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**Author:** ![Amblydoper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Amblydoper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amblydoper)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/72 "2013-09-22T04:32:42Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> This game really is just a slightly more interactive version of [Progress Quest](http://progressquest.com/). There’s not much “game” there, it’s just watching numbers go up and clicking every once in a while. It’s not even hard, you can’t really lose. It’s just a function of how long it takes to reach your arbitrary goal.

Someone posted a link to Progress Quest in a discussion about an iPad game I liked, arguing that there was no real “game” to be played. It was really just a grindy time waster in which you clicked/tapped buttons to make numbers go up. Not to say that you are saying this, but he made the comment to say that this game was worthless. His comment bugged me and I thought about it for a few days. I decided that I LIKE games where the point is progression, assuming that the process is at least entertaining, and there is something worth progressing for. The end of the game is not the entertainment, the game itself is.

The iPad game (Mini Warriors, if you care) became tedious and my progress slowed to a halt, so I gave up. That game was no longer fun, but it wasn’t for the complaints comparing it to “Progress Quest.” The game’s makers missed an opportunity to make it really fun, but progress slowed exponentially. If the game is about grinding and progressing, it won’t be fun if you take away that progress and only leave the grind.

Another “grindy” game I like is Minecraft. I like starting a new world and setting up farms, brewing stations, animal pens, storage rooms, etc. I get bored with it once I get to the point where I could do anything I wanted. Once that full-sandbox-mode is available, I lose interest. Most people seem to play just to get to that sandbox, where the real fun begins for them. At that point, I don’t feel there is any fun left.

So, all this is to say, that I like Cookie Clicker. I want to unlock all the things, and I want to do it as efficiently as possible. I like comparing my click rate to my overall cps. I like comparing costs and CPS rates to determine the ideal build order. I like comparing the effectiveness of each upgrade to everything else. And its all because I want to see my cookies pile up to unimaginably high numbers. Do you remember Jack Sparrow’s last line in Pirates of the Caribbean, as he sailed off with the freedom of the Black Pearl and the entire ocean as his playground? “Bring me that Horizon.” That’s how I feel about video games. Bring me that Heavenly Cookie.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/73 "2013-09-22T04:44:44Z")

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Like I said, I like the game. It’s just not very deep, and is ultimately a grindy timewaster with no real failure condition, no real setback condition, and no real goal. Reaching your goal is more or less inevitable if it’s within the confines of the game.

This isn’t a bad thing. I’ve been playing the damn thing for 7 hours! I like it, I’m just saying that it’s more like a guided tour of funny upgrade and achievement names than it really is a “game”. And that’s cool. It’s still fun.

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**Author:** ![Amblydoper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Amblydoper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amblydoper)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/74 "2013-09-22T04:58:43Z")

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Also, I crashed the part of OSX that controls clicking. Everything else worked just fine, but I couldn’t click. ☹

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/75 "2013-09-22T08:12:44Z")

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My wife switched off the laptop last night and lost about two hours’ worth of progress after I bought two antimatter condensers ☹

Luckily I had exported a game save so only lost those two hours.

Now I find that it works in Safari on my phone. Possibly the best way to deplete your battery ever 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/76 "2013-09-22T11:55:54Z")

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What I find amusing is that at around the million CPS mark, after your cookies have attained sentience and are starting to re-write the laws of physics, the most frequent update is “The local news does a ten-minute segment on your cookies. Win!”.

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**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/77 "2013-09-22T12:36:50Z")

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It’s quite nice that you can export saves just using a text string. I guess you could just grab someone’s save and start at a high level.

I wonder what’s the max number of cookies? In computers, every number is stored with a finite precision.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/78 "2013-09-22T13:16:54Z")

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I’m not really sure what to do once buying the antimatter condenser becomes frequent. I have 6 right now, mostly due to buying upgrades instead of more of them.

I’m making (only) 12 million cookies per second, but it seems like a long haul to get it up in the billions per second at this point.

Any suggestions? I can buy most of the tools instantly, with only a few minutes wait for condensers.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/79 "2013-09-22T14:04:59Z")

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A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-most-addicting-game-that-exists-on-the-internet-no-seriously/669356/80 "2013-09-22T14:23:17Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’m not really sure what to do once buying the antimatter condenser becomes frequent. I have 6 right now, mostly due to buying upgrades instead of more of them.
> 
> I’m making (only) 12 million cookies per second, but it seems like a long haul to get it up in the billions per second at this point.
> 
> Any suggestions? I can buy most of the tools instantly, with only a few minutes wait for condensers.

I’m currently at 261 million cps, and the top three buildings as well as cursors are expensive enough now it’s takes awhile to buy even one. The upgrades cost me a trillion per now. Don’t worry, you can spend your cookies. 🙂

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