# So I've found the SECOND most addicting game to exist on the internet. No, really. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 14, 2016, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917 "2016-09-14T07:22:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/302 "2016-11-29T05:34:49Z")
I’ll have to consider that after a night’s sleep. Is it worth doing the Decay challenge? It allows you to create Gardens in maps. What do Gardens do? ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/303 "2016-11-29T07:01:22Z")
Ugh, I got all my numbers for table 2 wrong, the second column should be a flat 1.75 times the second column in table 1, instead I scaled up _each step_ by 1.75 instead of 1.4. Still, the overall message of cheaper in the long run to buy more than two from table 1 still holds, even if my details are off. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/304 "2016-11-29T07:34:45Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I’ll have to consider that after a night’s sleep. > > Is it worth doing the Decay challenge? It allows you to create Gardens in maps. What do Gardens do? I am currently desperately trying to get this one finished. It’s been at least four days now, and it’s just irritating as all getout. I’m about halfway through zone 55 though. Maybe by tomorrow night? The biggest problem in this one is your attack. You need to totally max out your production and power perks. Blockage is easy, but attack is miserable. My power is at 26, and it’s nowhere near enough. I’m at 104T max damage and taking up to ten minutes to beat down opponents whose health is 40+Qa Farming is useless, but I need the map bonus desperately. But it takes forever to get through a map even twice. Do this one on a really busy week at work; choose a day/week when you’ll really only have time to check in once a day to click upgrades. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/305 "2016-11-30T00:40:54Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > How many times through the portal am I looking at to get to that point? I’ve portalled 6 times, my max level is z60 and I have level 12 carpentry. I’ve portaled 14 times now, and haven’t really needed Wormholes for the last three or so, from what I remember. The first time I ran to Z60, I bought a whole 20 of them. Next run, nine I think. Next run after that, I bought two or three but really didn’t need them. Don’t need them now at all. Don’t really need very many Gateways either. Those Carpentries are boss. But, there is an achievement for owning 100 of all housing. That’ll be expensive. Anyone gotten that yet? I’m curious how much He 100 WHs cost. The Decay challenge wasn’t bad for me. It’s fast, and good to use for speed runs. My next challenge will be Electricity. I do whatever challenges I’ve unlocked plus a couple helium runs to help beef up a bit before my next long run, which will be at least to Z90 next time and who knows, maybe higher. ---
**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/306 "2016-11-30T01:24:06Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > But, there is an achievement for owning 100 of all housing. That’ll be expensive. Anyone gotten that yet? I’m curious how much He 100 WHs cost. 184K, apparently; it shows the cost if you mouse over it with a number selected. That is a lot of Helium, though. I think I might just about pull it off if I make a Daily challenge run to zone 90 or so, but then on the other hand I’d rather just keep the Helium for perks. ---
**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/307 "2016-11-30T01:35:48Z")
…Oh yeah, and on second thought keeping the Warpstation at level 0 would probably have to suck pretty bad too, I imagine. On a different note, has anyone been able to get the Gallop to Doom achievement? My best time is 1:18 and I don’t even know how I did that because every run since has taken longer, oddly enough. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/308 "2016-11-30T02:02:34Z")
Is there a point where it isn’t worth the Metal to upgrade equipment beyond level 1 if you have prestiges to work on too? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/309 "2016-11-30T03:01:25Z")
> [@Telperion](#): > > …Oh yeah, and on second thought keeping the Warpstation at level 0 would probably have to suck pretty bad too, I imagine. > > On a different note, has anyone been able to get the Gallop to Doom achievement? My best time is 1:18 and I don’t even know how I did that because every run since has taken longer, oddly enough. No, I missed Angry Racer by three minutes, and my best for Gallop to Doom is 1:50. I may try running Decay and going balls to the walls for those if they don’t happen on their own. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/310 "2016-11-30T15:14:19Z")
I saw the new stuff in the latest update, things that happen AFTER zone 230+!! How long do you have to play this game to get that far? I’ve been playing for weeks and JUST cracked zone 100! ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/311 "2016-11-30T16:25:04Z")
I’ve been playing since this thread opened in September and am currently working on zone 80. I don’t recall how many times I’ve portaled (12 maybe?). I’m going to work on the Prison zone then respec. Maybe zones 80+ will take less time. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/312 "2016-11-30T20:44:36Z")
I just bought Flutimp. They say fragments become useless later in the game, but so far I haven’t found that to be the case, especially if you like to run Garden or Mountain maps, so we’ll see if Flutimp helps. It seems to drop pretty frequently. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/313 "2016-11-30T20:51:15Z")
\*Who \*says Fragments are useless? You’ll always need them to create maps, won’t you? What do garden maps do? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/314 "2016-11-30T21:06:00Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > \*Who \*says Fragments are useless? You’ll always need them to create maps, won’t you? I think so. But after a while, you will collect so many just from running maps for upgrades and/or attack bonus that the fragments will always just be there to create new maps > [@](#): > > What do garden maps do? It looks to me that they are just maps that offer every resource type instead of a particular one. Haven’t really found much difference, unless the reward for each defeat is higher in the garden maps or something. I don’t analyze the game too much to give you any greater detail than that. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/315 "2016-11-30T21:12:43Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > \*Who \*says Fragments are useless? You’ll always need them to create maps, won’t you? Exactly. Maps get really expensive. I just read that in the guide that they’re unimportant. I don’t agree with it. I usually skip maps every other level or so or I’d run out of fragments pretty quickly. > [@](#): > > What do garden maps do? Garden maps drop a little of everything, but once you complete the Decay challenge, you can buy them instead of just hoping one will randomly drop, and they drop 25% more loot, so it’s nice. ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/316 "2016-11-30T22:21:38Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > I am currently desperately trying to get this one finished. It’s been at least four days now, and it’s just irritating as all getout. I’m about halfway through zone 55 though. Maybe by tomorrow night? > > The biggest problem in this one is your attack. You need to totally max out your production and power perks. Blockage is easy, but attack is miserable. My power is at 26, and it’s nowhere near enough. I’m at 104T max damage and taking up to ten minutes to beat down opponents whose health is 40+Qa > > Farming is useless, but I need the map bonus desperately. But it takes forever to get through a map even twice. > > Do this one on a really busy week at work; choose a day/week when you’ll really only have time to check in once a day to click upgrades. > > :smack: The thing about Decay is that the first ten minutes or so on a level are _way faster_ than normal in attack and resource generation. If you wait to do the challenge until a normal level 55 would take you half an hour or less, than you should be able to finish every level faster than normal. So… my advice is to wait until you have more He and it’ll be really easy. > [@Telperion](#): > > …Oh yeah, and on second thought keeping the Warpstation at level 0 would probably have to suck pretty bad too, I imagine. > > On a different note, has anyone been able to get the Gallop to Doom achievement? My best time is 1:18 and I don’t even know how I did that because every run since has taken longer, oddly enough. If I recall correctly, I was doing the decay challenge when I realized I was in time to do Gallop. Decay is blazingly fast if you have the He spent. ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/317 "2016-11-30T22:30:43Z")
> [@Telperion](#): > > 184K, apparently; it shows the cost if you mouse over it with a number selected. That is a lot of Helium, though. I think I might just about pull it off if I make a Daily challenge run to zone 90 or so, but then on the other hand I’d rather just keep the Helium for perks. Yeah, but you need 100 Warpstations and Gateways too. I’m doubtful you’d be able to get 100 Warpstations in a reasonable amount of time at zone 90. I’m guessing zone 120 or so would be a lower limit. That said, I could do it on my current run but I’m thinking that 184k isn’t worth it yet, even though I have a few million He total. I just unlocked the challenge that will allow me to buy resourceful, which is the perk to make structures like Warpstations at a discount, so I’m thinking I’ll wait to get a few levels of that before buying that achievement. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/318 "2016-12-01T13:40:04Z")
> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#): > > Yeah, but you need 100 Warpstations and Gateways too. I’m doubtful you’d be able to get 100 Warpstations in a reasonable amount of time at zone 90. I’m guessing zone 120 or so would be a lower limit. Does it need 100 current Warpstations, or 100 total Warpstations? Because I’ve been doing 10+3, and am at Warp9 with 35 stations - 233 in total. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/319 "2016-12-01T18:09:13Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Does it need 100 current Warpstations, or 100 total Warpstations? Because I’ve been doing 10+3, and am at Warp9 with 35 stations - 233 in total. I’m pretty sure that would be too easy. ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/320 "2016-12-01T18:51:50Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Does it need 100 current Warpstations, or 100 total Warpstations? Because I’ve been doing 10+3, and am at Warp9 with 35 stations - 233 in total. Yeah, my understanding is that it needs 100 current Warpstations. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/321 "2016-12-02T02:27:07Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Is there a point where it isn’t worth the Metal to upgrade equipment beyond level 1 if you have prestiges to work on too? Reposting this since it seems to have slipped by. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917.md?page=17)