# So I've found the SECOND most addicting game to exist on the internet. No, really.

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**Created:** [September 14, 2016, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917 "2016-09-14T07:22:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/422 "2017-01-15T20:31:31Z")

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I’ve always thought the map recycling was there just to keep things tidy.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/423 "2017-01-15T20:44:18Z")

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I’ve been up to Zone 155, and so far, it’s been mostly useless. You can use it to remove clutter from the map screen. And as you say if you get stuck you can recycle. This has a use - it means you don’t have to go back to it. You can run a lower level map instead. But the fragment return is always trivial.  
Can anyone explain the purpose of siphonology? For each level you will earn stacks from maps one level lower than your current world. I don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/424 "2017-01-15T21:37:16Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> It seems like there a pretty big gap in interesting stuff happening after about Z80. Is the idea that I farm the lower levels with Balance or Electricity to get a shit load of He that I can use to blow through the Z80-125 section?

I’m kind of in a rut at around Z100, can’t get much further although once I made it Z120, but it took many days. Electricity is nice, but doesn’t give enough helium to buy more Coordinated and Carpentry. I just keep doing dailies, especially if they give at least 300%, but it’s still taking forever. You pretty much have to slog your way past Z100 to get enough helium to buy anything. You’d have to actively play the game all day to do Electricity enough to save up significant amounts of helium. If you could complete Electricity three or four times a day I guess it would be okay.

I pretty much always recycle just to keep things tidy, but it’s useless for the fragments.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/425 "2017-01-15T21:44:40Z")

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Have you tried doing a normal run, no challenges, and going for the speed bonuses? It can give a big boost to your attack.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/426 "2017-01-15T21:50:43Z")

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I managed to do Prison in less than four hours, that’s the highest I’ve got. I’m not sure I’ve ever done a run without doing some sort of challenge at the same time. I probably should think about trying for some more Feats.

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**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/427 "2017-01-15T23:45:43Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Can anyone explain the purpose of siphonology? For each level you will earn stacks from maps one level lower than your current world. I don’t get it.

It’s pretty good when you start to get bogged down, since you can farm three levels lower and still get the 200% damage bonus. It’s not super-awesome or anything, but it’s useful for squeezing out the last couple of levels you need for an achievement. That’s also pretty much how I got to the Spire (zone 200).

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/428 "2017-01-16T07:27:54Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> keeping vs recycling maps: is there ever a point to this?
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> The number of fragments received for recycling a map is so incredibly low relative to the number needed to to build the next one, that I wonder the game masters have troubled with the concept at all?
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> There doesn’t seem to be any limit to the number of maps one can keep, nor any particular usefulness to the old ones. It’s just a matter of hitting the recycle button if you didn’t happen to finish the last one, and getting a de minimus fragment bonus as a result.
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> I’m only at Z91, making my first run toward 100. I’d like to know, is there ever a point where this starts to make sense? Does keeping vs recycling maps ever become a matter of strategy?
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> Is it really just a complete waste of time and buttons?

There’s a limit to the number of maps you can keep, I recycle when I hit that limit. That’s pretty much the point of recycling, so far as I can tell.

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/429 "2017-01-16T07:34:08Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I’m kind of in a rut at around Z100, can’t get much further although once I made it Z120, but it took many days. Electricity is nice, but doesn’t give enough helium to buy more Coordinated and Carpentry. I just keep doing dailies, especially if they give at least 300%, but it’s still taking forever. You pretty much have to slog your way past Z100 to get enough helium to buy anything. You’d have to actively play the game all day to do Electricity enough to save up significant amounts of helium. If you could complete Electricity three or four times a day I guess it would be okay.
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> I pretty much always recycle just to keep things tidy, but it’s useless for the fragments.

I never did any Electricity runs, unless you count Mapocalypse, which sort of includes Electricity. Dailies are almost always better. It does sound like you’re on the cusp of both the Sci V and the Slow challenges at level 130, both of which should help speed and depth.

I didn’t really feel like things bogged down in that range, but maybe my playstyle is different.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/430 "2017-01-16T15:29:49Z")

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Does anyone else hear Jeor Mormont’s voice as you’re parceling out the Trimps?

“1 million to the Farmers, 2 million to the miners, Jon to the stewards . . .”

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/431 "2017-01-18T04:47:00Z")

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I often hear the theme to Blackadder when clicking on Dagadder. Also, I’ll occasionally hear Tenacious D’s “Tribute” when clicking on that.

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/432 "2017-01-23T01:58:26Z")

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Is there a guide for what the post fixes mean M is million or 10^6, B is a billion or 10^9 I am not sure much beyond that. Ud, Dc, No, Qi, Qa, Qd what do they mean?

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/433 "2017-01-23T07:52:02Z")

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Million, Billion, Trillion, Quadrillion, Quintillion, Sextillion, Septillion, etc

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/434 "2017-01-23T08:09:48Z")

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> [@gazpacho](#):
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> Is there a guide for what the post fixes mean M is million or 10^6, B is a billion or 10^9 I am not sure much beyond that. Ud, Dc, No, Qi, Qa, Qd what do they mean?

M=Mi U=un  
B=Bi  
T=Tri  
Qa=Quadr  
Qi=Quint  
Sx=Sext  
Sp=Sept  
O=Oct  
N=Non  
On their own, just add “(i)llion”

(something)d= (something)decillion  
(something)v=(something)vingtillion  
(something)t=(something)trigintillion

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/435 "2017-01-25T13:22:09Z")

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Has anyone managed to do a Mapology challenge? I tried it once, but I couldn’t go beyond Z60. I think it’s the only challenge I’ couldn’t beat. A couple took me two tries, but this one I don’t see how anyone can beat it.

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**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/436 "2017-01-25T15:49:19Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Has anyone managed to do a Mapology challenge? I tried it once, but I couldn’t go beyond Z60. I think it’s the only challenge I’ couldn’t beat. A couple took me two tries, but this one I don’t see how anyone can beat it.

Yeah, I did it a while back. What you have to do is set gear drops to equip first, and then only run maps manually for the first five items. That way, you get 99 total gear drops for five tier 19-20 items.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/437 "2017-02-02T20:34:27Z")

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Damnation…I was having problems with Chrome and used Reset Settings. Completely wiped out the last month of Perks and Heirlooms. I thought I had game save through server flagged, but it gave me a game from several months ago. I have an export from a few weeks ago, so I guess I’ll go back to that.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/438 "2017-02-02T23:51:01Z")

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Moral - always export before you portal.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/439 "2017-02-03T01:55:48Z")

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Thanks. I’ve been getting lazy about that.

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-ive-found-the-second-most-addicting-game-to-exist-on-the-internet-no-really/765917/440 "2017-02-10T09:25:52Z")

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My Portal button has vanished. Anyone else seeing this? An Update?

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
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Are you on a new run but haven’t gotten to Z20 again yet?

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