# So North Korea? WTF? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 30, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300 "2019-06-30T14:40:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/41 "2019-06-30T23:16:30Z")
Maybe the shadows rejected him. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/42 "2019-06-30T23:17:08Z")
Perhaps. I forget that dissent is not tolerated well here. But my point above still stands. May not be the best strategy but at least something is being attempted. I agree with it. You may not. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/43 "2019-06-30T23:17:52Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > Keeping friends close and enemies closer. Works out well in many cases. Yes, that can work sometimes. Schmoozing your “enemies” and shitting on your friends at every opportunity doesn’t work so well though imo. Never worked for me anyway. (added) In fact, you end up with a bunch of shitty “friends” and your former friends consider you toxic. Great plan. > [@](#): > > If you work with your enemy, friends and others will think you are a sell-out because they are still being bullied by the same. Yup. Because they are. And you’re most likely being manipulated. And you are a sell out unless your friends are in on the plan. Which, in this case, I’d bet money that they’re not. > [@](#): > > They won’t get along well with this president because he is unpredictable in the eyes of other leaders, which is a fantastic characteristic since the last 3 presidents were very predictable. Everyone else forgets the past 3 licked the taints of other countries, including enemies. They got a pass. (Yes, even G.W.) Trump does it and he doesn’t. They did? Could you maybe give some cites? Also don’t really think being “unpredictable” is a fantastic characteristic in a world leader. It might be fun in the dude you have drinks with\*. Good for laughs sometimes but in a world leader? Nah, not so much. \*actually, no. Not if the dude is farting on your other friends. > [@](#): > > I wonder why that is? Just more “Orange Man Bad” nonsense. Yeah… no. He is bad. Actually, he sucks massively and has for the past 50 some odd years. He really truly is a rotten horrible person. > [@](#): > > P.S. Hello everyone. I’ve still been here in the shadows, watching. Great. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/44 "2019-06-30T23:18:08Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > _Trump becomes first sitting U.S. president to set foot in North Korea_ > Fantastic! Now for the \*bad \*news… … they let him come back. Chump is “honored” to have met Kim at the border and stepped into the North. No doubt he would have been giggling like a little schoolgirl if he could have met his real hero, Adolf Hitler. Nice photo op, as much fluff as cotton candy. Anyone ask Otto Warmbier’s parents how proud they are right now. What a fucking disgrace we have as a president. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/45 "2019-06-30T23:24:26Z")
Let me come back? No. I’ve not been banned. I see you are still comparing everything to Nazism though, at least that stayed the same too. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/46 "2019-06-30T23:25:11Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > Perhaps. I forget that dissent is not tolerated well here. But my point above still stands. May not be the best strategy but at least something is being attempted. I agree with it. You may not. I’ll bet you were one of those sycophants who held kids so the bullies wouldn’t have to chase them. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/47 "2019-06-30T23:25:20Z")
More like: Orange Man fucking stupid, supporters dumber still. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/48 "2019-06-30T23:37:12Z")
> [@slumtrimpet](#): > > Yes, that can work sometimes. Schmoozing your “enemies” and shitting on your friends at every opportunity doesn’t work so well though imo. Never worked for me anyway. > (added) In fact, you end up with a bunch of shitty “friends” and your former friends consider you toxic. Great plan. > Yup. Because they are. And you’re most likely being manipulated. And you are a sell out unless your friends are in on the plan. Which, in this case, I’d bet money that they’re not. > They did? Could you maybe give some cites? > Also don’t really think being “unpredictable” is a fantastic characteristic in a world leader. It might be fun in the dude you have drinks with\*. Good for laughs sometimes but in a world leader? Nah, not so much. > \*actually, no. Not if the dude is farting on your other friends. > Yeah… no. He is bad. Actually, he sucks massively and has for the past 50 some odd years. He really truly is a rotten horrible person. > > Great. :rolleyes: Working with close friends is different than macromanagement of that with world leaders. So in theory and practice the same tactics may have different outcomes. No cites by the way. I’ve been done with that as they are a circle jerk of peer reviewed information pawned off by people of the same interests socio economically and politically. If one doesn’t agree it doesn’t get published. I. My experience much of the information built up is either disproven or altered over time that many sources are lost, skewed or interpreted out of context. Anyone who has written a college paper and payed attention knows this. That or you have a choice of WaPo or Fox. Vox Or Town Hall. If you post something official like facts from law enforcement or national security sources, they get discredited for being part of some vast systemic conspiracy against POC. So I do not bother with sources anymore. Could you provide any cites of why Trump is bad? Obviously, how about good? Thought so. All sources follow suit in one direction. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/49 "2019-06-30T23:39:22Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I’ll bet you were one of those sycophants who held kids so the bullies wouldn’t have to chase them. No, and I never had bullies around, because I kicked the shit out of those who would try. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/50 "2019-06-30T23:40:30Z")
Wow, haven’t seen the “Trump is playing 23rd dimensional chess” gambit recently. Thought that one was dead. Guess not. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/51 "2019-06-30T23:42:42Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > More like: Orange Man fucking stupid, supporters dumber still. Have you been watching those debates? Talk about shooting each other in the foot. Incumbent is a much better choice. Although I technically wouldn’t mind as much if Warren won. She still actually supports capitalism, not as racially motivated has more sense. Not as contrived as Harris or Biden or that sideshow Sanders. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/52 "2019-06-30T23:43:03Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > P.S. Hello everyone. I’ve still been here in the shadows, watching. Shoulda stayed there. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/53 "2019-06-30T23:44:31Z")
That was started by those frog obsessed 4chan virgins with too much RPG experience. I do not believe that crap. It’s a different strategy is all. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/54 "2019-06-30T23:45:52Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Shoulda stayed there. If you’ve nothing to say then go away. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/55 "2019-06-30T23:47:41Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > If you’ve nothing to say then go away. _checks name of board and forum_ Nope…I don’t see “anomalous1” on either one. If you shitpost shitty opinions, people can call you on it. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/56 "2019-06-30T23:56:47Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > _checks name of board and forum_ > > Nope…I don’t see “anomalous1” on either one. If you shitpost shitty opinions, people can call you on it. By what definition do you post opinions. Are your opinions somehow inherently better than mine? Cites excluded and everything else the same, no. They are not. You’re a generic bandwagon - fair weather poster anyway so I’ll take a huge nugget of salt. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/57 "2019-06-30T23:58:21Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > … No cites by the way. I’ve been done with that as they are a circle jerk of … …blah blah blah bullshit ensues. > [@anomalous1](#): > > … > Could you provide any cites of why Trump is bad? … Says the bullshit motherfucker who is, like, totally done with cites. Fuck off, Trump supporter. Eat shit. You’re bullshit, and you’re as clever at concealing that as Trump is. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/58 "2019-06-30T23:58:57Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > No, and I never had bullies around, because I kicked the shit out of those who would try. Bull. Shit. If that was true, you wouldn’t be a MAGAtt. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/59 "2019-07-01T00:07:48Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > so I’ll take a huge nugget of salt. Which you’re welcome to choke on, MAGAt, ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300/60 "2019-07-01T00:09:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Bull. Shit. If that was true, you wouldn’t be a MAGAtt. No If’s it is absolutely fact. Sorry can’t give you cites, that is one for personal empiricism and experience. If you want to solve a problem, learn how and do it yourself instead of being a baby and having someone else fight your battles and solve your problems for you. I wasn’t raised that way, I figured it out. Being a Republican (specifically Libertarian) I had no choice, not going to let those whom you support dissolve my country and give it away to everybody you damn well please. I believe in personal sovereignty. It’s delightful. Solving ones own problems is the _ONLY_ way to live. You wake up satisfied, complete and whole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-north-korea-wtf/836300.md?page=4)