# So... now that Trump is POTUS I wonder how preppers feel about their SHTF food & gear investments?

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**Created:** [January 3, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199 "2017-01-03T03:26:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/1 "2017-01-03T03:26:08Z")

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Most preppers are quite conservative leaning and now that Trump is POTUS their fondest political dreams have come about as true as they cold have hoped for.

So… you have $10,000 - $20,000 or more (some a lot more) in SHTF (shit hits the fan) end of civilization food stashes, gear and supplies and… everything’s coming up roses for you politically and culturally!

Time to start eating those freeze dried lasagna soup packets and buckets of dried potato flakes … or not?

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/2 "2017-01-03T04:04:39Z")

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The spot price of silver has actually been in a downward swing. So now’s the time to get them.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/3 "2017-01-03T04:11:13Z")

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Are you kidding? A billionaire from New York City who’s friendly with the Russians?

A genuine survivalist or prepper is right now digging the foundation for a new compound even deeper in the Rockies!

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/4 "2017-01-03T06:10:26Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> The spot price of silver has actually been in a downward swing. So now’s the time to get them.

So has gold. I’ve been wondering how the gold bugs are reacting to this - the smart ones are doubling down and buying as it gets cheaper, I suppose.

I’m not a survivalist, but when I imagine that mindset it is one that is very heavily invested in a bad outcome sooner rather than later. So I doubt that many of the serious ones are any less serious now than they were last year.

How many ways can the world end? Nuclear war (still unlikely in my view), accelerated global warming (likely, but longer term, I hope I’ll be dead), economic collapse due to one of those pulse thingies that kills all the electronics, hyperinflation, what else?

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/5 "2017-01-03T06:23:39Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> The spot price of silver has actually been in a downward swing. So now’s the time to get them.

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> So has gold. I’ve been wondering how the gold bugs are reacting to this - the smart ones are doubling down and buying as it gets cheaper, I suppose.

The more wacky ones claim that the market is rigged. Apparently precious metal prices are like helium–the only natural behavior is to go up.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/6 "2017-01-03T06:32:10Z")

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Well, minorities are buying a lot of guns now. I don’t see anyone on the left mocking them. I also don’t see anyone anyone on the left trotting out their own paranoia about guns as they do with white gun buyers, which is rather odd.

Personally I think their fears are way overblown. But they should buy guns if they want to. They have every right to buy a gun, exactly the same rights as anyone.

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**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/7 "2017-01-03T06:46:22Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> How many ways can the world end? Nuclear war (still unlikely in my view), accelerated global warming (likely, but longer term, I hope I’ll be dead), economic collapse due to one of those pulse thingies that kills all the electronics, hyperinflation, what else?

Pandemic, a big meteor strike, VEI 7+ volcanic eruption. Then there’s more local stuff like giant earthquakes and cat 5 hurricanes I guess.

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**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/8 "2017-01-03T11:59:48Z")

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> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> Well, minorities are buying a lot of guns now. I don’t see anyone on the left mocking them. I also don’t see anyone anyone on the left trotting out their own paranoia about guns as they do with white gun buyers, which is rather odd.
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> Personally I think their fears are way overblown. But they should buy guns if they want to. They have every right to buy a gun, exactly the same rights as anyone.

Define “a lot”.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/9 "2017-01-03T13:41:10Z")

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\*"I believe that we could see violent protests regardless of if (Trump) is nominated/elected or not. For example, if Trump wins the elections no doubt there will be further violent demonstrations by the Black Lives Matter group and Bernie Supporters. If this happens I believe that is will not be localized. This will probably happen on a national scale which could in return spark a civil war.

As a prepper we need to be aware of the potential. Many don’t believe that it is that bad. In my opinion this is all engineered. It is a part of the agenda to further divide this country. Over the past few years we have seen the mainstream media and politicians stir the racial tensions within this country. It is all a part of a plan to divide this country so that it will implode on itself."\*

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No matter what happens, it’s all part of the conspiracy, so buy that gear and dig those shelters.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/10 "2017-01-03T14:21:40Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> \*"I believe that we could see violent protests regardless of if (Trump) is nominated/elected or not. For example, if Trump wins the elections no doubt there will be further violent demonstrations by the Black Lives Matter group and Bernie Supporters. If this happens I believe that is will not be localized. This will probably happen on a national scale which could in return spark a civil war.
> 
> As a prepper we need to be aware of the potential. Many don’t believe that it is that bad. In my opinion this is all engineered. It is a part of the agenda to further divide this country. Over the past few years we have seen the mainstream media and politicians stir the racial tensions within this country. It is all a part of a plan to divide this country so that it will implode on itself."\*
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> [http://www.smartpreppergear.com/preppers-concerned-donald-trump-elections/](http://www.smartpreppergear.com/preppers-concerned-donald-trump-elections/)
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> No matter what happens, it’s all part of the conspiracy, so buy that gear and dig those shelters.

Buy that gear, but you better ACT NOW – these prices won’t last! Free survival axe with every order over $200… at these prices, you can’t afford to _not_ be prepared!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/11 "2017-01-03T14:31:11Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Most preppers are quite conservative leaning

Cite?

> [@](#):
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> and now that Trump is POTUS their fondest political dreams have come about as true as they cold have hoped for.

I suggest you pass through the hyperbole and wander over to somewhere like the [Zombie Squad](https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=6) forums, read threads like [this one](https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=119321&sid=54120f29cd04d1722dd2a1ef61f344cd), and fight your own ignorance. They’re not looking forward to or actually preparing for TEOTWAWKI but by proper contingency planning they can cope when there is a disaster. How would you cope when the electricity fails in winter? Or there’s no water for an extended period?

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/12 "2017-01-03T15:02:22Z")

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My Goodness current events are outpacing me!

[If you’ve stopped prepping, it could be the biggest mistake of your life](http://www.glitch.news/2016-12-24-stopped-prepping-could-be-the-biggest-mistake-of-your-life-survival-caching-financial-collapse.html)

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> In a wildly viral article from [TheEconomicCollapseBlog.com](http://TheEconomicCollapseBlog.com), Michael Snyder reveals that prepping has collapsed among Trump supporters since the day of the election. “\*nterest in prepping is probably the lowest that it has ever been in the history of the modern prepper movement. A couple of weeks ago, I wrote an article about how it was like ‘a nuclear bomb went off in the prepping community’, and nothing has changed since that time,” Snyder wrote.
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> Liberals and leftists, meanwhile, are suddenly stocking up like mad on food, guns and ammo. In an article titled, “Now it’s the liberals who are arming up,” [McClatchyDC.com](http://McClatchyDC.com) reports, “Gun shop owner Michael Cargill told NBC News gun classes at his Austin, Texas store are selling out. He’s noticed an increase in LGBTQ, African-American, Hispanic and Muslim customers. Store owners told NBC they’ve seen up to four times as many minority customers than is typical.”

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/13 "2017-01-03T15:54:05Z")

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I can’t believe it’s still a bit difficult to get .22LR. What the hell are these people trying to accomplish by hoarding this stuff?

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/14 "2017-01-03T16:03:42Z")

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In any case, they should be using and replacing their stores. In Switzerland, everyone is supposed to have a bomb shelter and keep it stocked with a 6 months supply of food. But they are also supposed to be updating it on a regular schedule.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/15 "2017-01-03T16:33:33Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Cite?
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> I suggest you pass through the hyperbole and wander over to somewhere like the [Zombie Squad](https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=6) forums, read threads like [this one](https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=119321&sid=54120f29cd04d1722dd2a1ef61f344cd), and fight your own ignorance. They’re not looking forward to or actually preparing for TEOTWAWKI but by proper contingency planning they can cope when there is a disaster. How would you cope when the electricity fails in winter? Or there’s no water for an extended period?

I have a generator and a kerosene heater in my garage for exactly that eventuality. I carry a decent amount of canned food, several days worth. I have a case of water that I dig into when I go hiking.

These are all very reasonable precautions to take in case something happens and I am without the benefits of civilization for a few days, maybe even as much as a week. Building up for longer than that seems rather unlikely to get used, for that sort of thing, you really are banking on the fall of civilization.

I have met many preppers who have said the only thing they need is a gun, then they can just take the stuff that others have saved. While that may be useful for end of the world scenarios, where it would not be possible to stock up for forever, it is a little less useful for a week or so of loss of services, unless he decides to come over and murder me for my supplies.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/16 "2017-01-03T16:48:27Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Most preppers are quite conservative leaning and now that Trump is POTUS …

Not until January 20th …

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/17 "2017-01-03T18:40:20Z")

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Since we’re solidly into anecdote territory, all the prepper people I know (rough count - about 30something in two basic groups) are NOT THRILLED with Trump and with this election development (devolvement) to say the least, and have been continuing their prepping unabated, and in about half the cases, with more intensity.

There is more concern in the last few months over what they call “civil unrest,” which I believe is based on those articles describing minority arms and ammo purchases, and their concerns over Russia have been getting more and more specific in conversations and posts. The focus on basic food/water/shelter/gear has shifted more towards currency replacements (gold/silver/ammo/spices) and medical supplies (perhaps in a dim understanding that ACA is toast?)

It’s certainly been interesting to watch, that’s for sure.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/18 "2017-01-03T19:26:53Z")

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Who controls the spices controls the universe.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/19 "2017-01-03T19:41:12Z")

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I think the chance of a Nuke was has gone up a HUGE amount form Obama. Still low, but certainly more.

Chance of other disasters: earthquake, huge volcano, hurricane, flood, sunspots and even zombies remain about the same.

“coming to take our guns” has also remained the same= the same % as a zombie Apocalypse.😛

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-that-trump-is-potus-i-wonder-how-preppers-feel-about-their-shtf-food-gear-investments/776199/20 "2017-01-03T19:42:20Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I suggest you pass through the hyperbole and wander over to somewhere like the [Zombie Squad](https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=6) forum…

Certainly if one wants to avoid unreasonable discussion, you should go straight to a website dedicated to dealing with the supernatural events of fantasy movies.

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