# So, now the president can order my state how to fly its flags?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 17, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066 "2013-09-17T16:43:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/21 "2013-09-17T21:32:02Z")

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Half-assed is when it’s being argued about on a message board. 😛

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/22 "2013-09-17T21:42:16Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I don’t need some president guy bossing me around. I’ll do what I wish with my flag, like patriotically wear them as jorts.

Sorry but if you are on federally owned property you better be wearing those jorts at half mast!

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/23 "2013-09-17T23:24:03Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I work in a state agency, and I just received this email (presumably sent to all state employees):
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> Yet another sign Obama is trying to something something something … BAD!

So did you hit “reply all” and correct them?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/24 "2013-09-18T00:05:34Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Sorry but if you are on federally owned property you better be wearing those jorts at half mast!

She doesn’t have a mast.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/25 "2013-09-18T02:19:20Z")

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Just for the record, President Reagan probably sent the same sort of executive order around when the Marine Barracks in Beirut was blown up. And GW Bush probably issued a very similar order on Sept 12, 2001. And again in 2004 when Pres Reagan passed away.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/26 "2013-09-18T02:26:44Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> She doesn’t have a mast.

Umm, no staff either! 😛

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**Author:** ![sentrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@sentrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sentrix)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/27 "2013-09-18T02:41:02Z")

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i don’t see what the problem is. its a mark of respect and all who say to heck with it well, you’re a petty lot. i’ve seen the u.s flag burnt here a few times years ago in front of the embassy and forty guards did nothing about it.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/28 "2013-09-18T03:03:24Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> We already know that a Kerry campaign is about as exciting as ketchup pouring.

I disagree ketchup is a fascinating subject and actually shear thinning fluids have some remarkable properties and have wide applications in fields as diverse as those requiring high viscosity fluids that thin when shear forces are applied, despite the often raised but misinformed question regarding commingling such terms as shear force and fluids, but none the less, in the complex field of pseudoplastic rheology I think we can all agree whipped cream is just yowzer!

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**Just for the record,** President Reagan **probably** sent the same sort of executive order around when the Marine Barracks in Beirut was blown up. And GW Bush probably issued a very similar order on Sept 12, 2001. And again in 2004 when Pres Reagan passed away. .  
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Not sure those bolded words belong in the same sentence.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/29 "2013-09-18T03:39:07Z")

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> [@sentrix](#):
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> i don’t see what the problem is. its a mark of respect and all who say to heck with it well, you’re a petty lot. i’ve seen the u.s flag burnt here a few times years ago in front of the embassy and forty guards did nothing about it.

What were they going to do? Start a war over a piece of cloth?

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/30 "2013-09-18T03:45:18Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> 12 innocent folks die so some can crack jokes. If this forum is going to stoop this low, I think it’s time to rethink my membership.

Bye!

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/31 "2013-09-18T13:21:49Z")

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> [@want2befree](#):
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> Half-mast is when it is being flown at sea.  
> Half-staff when on land.

What about when it has a gold fringe on? I hear that’s important. 😛

I do think flags are getting to be flown at half…pole rather a bit much these days. Seem to see them there rather than at full…pole most of the time. (Yes, I’m aware of the cognitive biases involved. Shush.)

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/32 "2013-09-18T14:07:42Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> 12 innocent folks die so some can crack jokes. If this forum is going to stoop this low, I think it’s time to rethink my membership.

If this is the first time you’ve seen something like this then you haven’t really been around here much in the first place.

Speaking of the first place, this thread is addressing the issue of presidential orders, not tragedies. So you appear to be expressing some one-off recreational outrage. It’s like saying at a wake, " Sam died just so we can gather around and have booze and cake?"

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/33 "2013-09-18T14:53:16Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Sorry but if you are on federally owned property you better be wearing those jorts at half mast!

I love you.

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-the-president-can-order-my-state-how-to-fly-its-flags/669066/34 "2013-09-18T20:13:33Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> He’s also selling bonds to fund a creationist [Ark Park](http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2013/09/god-moves-in-my.html#more).  
> The Panda’s Thumb website reports that:

Jeez, is that legal?

My first thought was that prison didn’t do him any good, but realized I was thinking of the wrong creationist KH, Kent Hovind. It looks like Ham wants to join him behind bars.

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