# So now what will happen to the "War On Drugs"

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**Created:** [September 24, 2001, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546 "2001-09-24T19:59:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Janx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Janx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Janx)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2001, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/1 "2001-09-24T19:59:54Z")

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That is all, So now what will happen to the “War On Drugs”.  
all that $$, all the choppers, all the C.I.A. stuff,  
Can we now expect a government who will re-think  
this “war”?  
Just a thought.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/2 "2001-09-24T21:15:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Janx \*  
> \*\*Can we now expect a government who will re-think  
> this “war”?  
> \*\*

Sadly, I seriously doubt it.

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**Author:** ![Osip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@Osip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osip)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2001, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/3 "2001-09-24T23:08:39Z")

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I sorta asked the same question in GD with poor results, (well since I checked yesterday) I asked because a) Borders and those crossing them are examined with more detail.  
b) The Taliban control 92% of the poppy fields which is their largest sourse of income.  
The article I read all this in is linked to the GD thread I started.

My WAG is smuggling into the country will be more difficult, yet I do not see how it will greatly affect domestic production of various narcotic and it’s trade.

Osip

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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2001, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/4 "2001-09-24T23:34:58Z")

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From what I can gather from a thread I started in Great Debates, drugs will no longer be a problem, because all the people currently employed in this trade will be recruited by the CIA to fight terrorism.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2001, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/5 "2001-09-24T23:50:44Z")

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If the attourney general gets what he wants from Congress regarding revisions on restrictions with respect to surveillance, that some great strides could be made here.

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2001, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/6 "2001-09-24T23:54:50Z")

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Ugh.

I don’t suppose anyone has budget proposals, press releases from the drug czar’s office, Ari Fleischer, or anything like that?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/7 "2001-09-25T00:19:16Z")

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The cynical part of me says that the War on Drugs will continue, only now it will have all kinds of quasi-constitional tools courtesy of the real war. A roving wiretap is a pretty powerful weapon against drug dealers.

The optimist in me says that we’ll gain some perspective after this and realize that smoking the occasional joint is not the height of evil.

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**Author:** ![audient](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@audient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audient)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/8 "2001-09-25T22:22:14Z")

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One the one hand, it looks likely that DEA will have some new federal law enforcement laws in their (IMHO misguided and futile) mission. So antidrug forces may become more effective.

OTOH, the federal govt has to prioritize. It can’t do everything, and it’s throwing a huge amount of its resources - people, money, time - at the War on Terrorism. I see a Big Forget happening in the Drug War, as well as other initiatives. (Is there enough room around that Cabinet Conference table to squeeze in Tom Ridge, or did someone just get voted off the island…?)

I agree that the general tightening of borders and “roundups of the usual suspects” will inadvertantly nab a few drug traffickers (perhaps some with terrorist ties may be funding themselves w/ drug money?). Just as this wide net will also pull in a few innocents.

One thought I had as the Bush administration reaction took shape was that at least he wouldn’t be spending time on domestic actions which I’d likely dislike. W is far too focussed on terrorism now to bother with a sequel to his partial stem cell research ban.

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/9 "2001-09-25T22:57:37Z")

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Well, since **manhattan** asked…

[National Drug Control Strategy: the 2001 Annual Report](http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/policy/ndcs01/index.html).

In the short term, resources have in fact been diverted from interdiction to anti-terrorism. Since [this press release](http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/news/press01/091401.html) is public, I shall quote lavishly:

\*The Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) is providing equipment, technology, and personnel to assist in the massive recovery and investigation efforts taking place following terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center in New York City. Assistance provided by ONDCP will help federal, state, and local officials build a communications network for the retrieval of victims and will provide ground-level investigative and intelligence support for the FBI-led investigation.

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Personnel from the New York/New Jersey HIDTA have been redirected to support the “intelligence zone defense” for New York City. More than 500 HIDTA detective/investigators are aiding the FBI by gathering and analyzing information and following up leads. The New York/New Jersey HIDTA is also providing 200 pieces of equipment to enable radio communications, computer terminals and networks, and 70 vehicles to support the operations in New York City. \*

However, that won’t last long. Where better to train your terrorist-group infiltrators than right here in the good 'ol U.S. of A., where civil liberties soon will erode like a sandcastle urinal and the trainees will learn among docile criminals who are most likely to retaliate by splashing bongwater on their new undercover hempware?

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**Author:** ![funneefarmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@funneefarmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/funneefarmer)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/10 "2001-09-26T00:27:15Z")

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NPR did a short little piece on marijuana this morning. It seems that just as harvest time is here in British Columbia there is a shortage of people willing to bring it across the Canadian border because of tighter security. They stated that prices are lower north of the border and are rising here in the states. I’m assuming this is only temporary, necessity is the mother of invention.

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**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/11 "2001-09-26T00:42:43Z")

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[nitpick]  
It wasn’t really a ‘war on drugs’, it was a war on people who used drugs.  
[/nitpick]

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**Author:** ![audient](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@audient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audient)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/12 "2001-09-26T04:01:41Z")

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**this is just too rich**

the US gave the Taliban $43 million bucks just _4 months ago._

[http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n922/a09.html](http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n922/a09.html)  
Why??

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> for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/13 "2001-09-26T14:37:03Z")

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Not really related to Bin Laden, but the Irish terrorist groups are principally financed by drug sales.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/14 "2001-09-27T05:28:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \*  
> \*\*Not really related to Bin Laden, but the Irish terrorist groups are principally financed by drug sales. \*\*

_sigh_

Cite?

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/15 "2001-09-27T07:53:06Z")

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I heard a news report the other night with a Pentagon official trying to emphasise that this “war against terrorisim” would not have a D-Day (i.e. a conventional invasion) but would be more like the “war on drugs”…

I only hope it will **not** have the same measure of success!!

Gp

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**Author:** ![Janx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Janx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Janx)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2001, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/16 "2001-10-08T15:08:55Z")

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The below stuff has helped give me some perspective,  
but now that we are actually “in it” I wonder what will happen now.

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2001, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/17 "2001-10-08T16:01:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by audient \*  
> \*\ ***this is just too rich**
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> the US gave the Taliban $43 million bucks just _4 months ago._
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> [http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n922/a09.html](http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n922/a09.html)  
> Why??
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> > for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God
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> \*\*

This is not true. That $43 million was given for humanitarian aid, primarily food, to be distributed by the United Nations, the World Food Project, and other NGOs. It was not given to, nor intended for, the Taliban for any reason whatsoever. [This](http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2001/index.cfm?docid=2928) State Department press release makes that clear; and what’s more, this is just a continuation of Clinton Administration policy.

Robert Scheer should lose his press credentials anywhere he had any for publishing that lie and allowing it to proliferate.

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**Author:** ![audient](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@audient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audient)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2001, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/18 "2001-10-08T19:26:15Z")

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yes, I retract my criticism about that aid grant. I have since read threads here as well as other press that put that in a different perspective.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/19 "2001-10-09T00:50:59Z")

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The new Drug Czar, in his opening statement, made it clear that he’s going for the easy targets. His first target, he said, will be medical marijuana. Nail the sick and the dying. That’s the way to be a Compassionate Conservative.

–Nott

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**Author:** ![RoboDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bbe5ce/32.png) [@RoboDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RoboDude)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-now-what-will-happen-to-the-war-on-drugs/83546/20 "2001-10-09T02:48:31Z")

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> NPR did a short little piece on marijuana this morning. It seems that just as harvest time is here in British Columbia there is a shortage of people willing to bring it across the Canadian border because of tighter security. They stated that prices are lower north of the border and are rising here in the states. I’m assuming this is only temporary, necessity is the mother of invention.

Considering the number of people who grow it right here in the US, that shouldn’t be a problem.

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