# So Philippine president Duterte abuses fentanyl?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 19, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-philippine-president-duterte-abuses-fentanyl/775113 "2016-12-19T03:06:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-philippine-president-duterte-abuses-fentanyl/775113/41 "2016-12-21T15:29:41Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> And people are OK with it? Yes they are.
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> It sounds exactly like a great place - to avoid.

By all means, stay the fuck away. Too many Joes with too much money would spoil the place for Cheap Charlies such as myself.

People aren’t exactly OK with it- as they said a lot in The Sopranos, “wadyagonna do?”

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**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-philippine-president-duterte-abuses-fentanyl/775113/42 "2016-12-21T19:57:19Z")

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I wonder if Duterte is channeling Mitch Hedberg: I **used to** take fentanyl … I still do, but I used to, too.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-philippine-president-duterte-abuses-fentanyl/775113/43 "2016-12-21T22:25:39Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> And people are OK with it? Yes they are.
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> It sounds exactly like a great place - to avoid.

I told Mrs. Odds that I would not be returning to the Philippines until Du30 (and his policies) are gone. If she is intent on returning, it won’t be with me. Sadly, prior to Du30, we were seriously considering moving there if Trump took office. Then we watched Du30’s rise and hoped that the American electorate would be smarter than the Filipino electorate.\*

Pretty much all of the family residing here in the US (including those born and raised in the Philippines) are anti-Du30, while those residing in the Philippines are about 2/3 to 3/4 for Du30. In the end, you have two countries who love putting TV personalities in positions of power and who think that the way to cure cancer is to contract ebola.

\*Technically, we were, because Trump lost the popular vote, but that pesky electoral college got in the way.

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**Author:** ![simple\_homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@simple\_homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simple_homer)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-philippine-president-duterte-abuses-fentanyl/775113/44 "2016-12-22T12:45:28Z")

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> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> It’s my impression that a hit-man costs about US$500.

In the provinces, it can be as cheap as US$100, or free, when combined with alcohol and machismo.

Duterte himself admitted to killing to “teach” others how to do it:

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> Philippines President Duterte admits killing suspects
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> (CNN)Controversial Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte has admitted killing suspected criminals during his time as mayor of Davao City.
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> “In Davao, I used to do it personally. Just to show the guys that, if I can do it, why can’t you?” Duterte said.  
> “And (I’d) go around Davao with a motorcycle, with a big bike around and I would just patrol the streets and looking for trouble also. I was really looking for an encounter so I could kill.”  
> He made the remarks at the Wallace Business Forum in Manila on Monday.  
> Since taking power in June, Duterte has waged a brutal “war on drugs.” The crackdown has been linked to more than 5,900 deaths in less than six months.  
> The President’s office has been contacted for comment.
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> [http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/14/asia/duterte-philippines-davao-killings/index.html](http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/14/asia/duterte-philippines-davao-killings/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-philippine-president-duterte-abuses-fentanyl/775113/45 "2016-12-22T14:59:55Z")

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> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> To deal with the problem by Western standards would require reforming the ridiculously inefficient and corrupt judicial system.

Well, obviously _that’s_ a non-starter. Better just kill everyone instead.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-philippine-president-duterte-abuses-fentanyl/775113/46 "2016-12-22T16:40:23Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, obviously _that’s_ a non-starter. Better just kill everyone instead.

_You_ try reforming a society with its roots in 400 years of corruption fostered by the worst people from Spain.

For some insight read _Noli Me Tangere_ and _El Filibusterismos, or The Reign of Greed_ by Jose Rizal, available free in various translations at [The Gutenberg Project.](http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/r)

“Noli Me Tangere” is Latin for “don’t touch me”. Presumably the title is in Latin to make it a message to the priests. It’s the novel for which Rizal was executed by the Spanish in 1896.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-philippine-president-duterte-abuses-fentanyl/775113/47 "2016-12-22T18:24:11Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, obviously _that’s_ a non-starter. Better just kill everyone instead.

And [kill journalists](https://cpj.org/2016/12/newspaper-publisher-shot-and-killed-in-philippines.php) so no one’s brave enough to report the facts of the murders.

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