This is why Aunt May never kicks Peter Parker out of her house.
I could not find a place in the New Yorker article that discussed the propriety of throwing out spiders into the cold dark outside world. A close reading of my science cite shows that while some spiders have evolved for an indoor environment, that by no means covers all spiders that are likely to be encountered indoors. The “Don’t toss the spiders”, movement seems to be sourced to a single museum manager whose actual position was exaggerated in the retelling.
FTR, I didn’t have a problem with the OP. Should we or should we not toss spiders outside is frankly a great question for this board. I am a curmudgeon about non-expert You-tube influencers though. They emit mental pollution IM-not-so-HO.
All good then. I was just confused by some of your post, appreciate your clearing it up, thanks.
FTR, I agree about the You-tube influencers, it was just a handy link-to.
I am in the “out they go” camp, mostly because my wife has a mild phobia about spiders. By coincidence, we noticed a spider crawling across the wall last night which I trapped in a glass and took a picture of. According to the Google Lens app, it was a Cheiracanthium inclusum, which is not poisonous but can inflict painful bites. It is also adapted to live outside as well as in, according to wikipedia. I tossed it out in the backyard.
I took a picture, link spoilered below for anyone with an aversion to spiders.
My guilt is hereby acknowledged. My wife saw one of these on the bedroom wall and asked me to kill it. I did but without looking it up. Shame. Kills pests and no web. I should have thanked it for its service.
(from Google AI) -The largest spider in Hawaii is the Cane Spider (Heteropoda venatoria), a type of huntsman that can have a leg span of 4–6 inches, often described as the size of a tuna can or a human hand. While large, they are not aggressive, do not build webs, and are actually beneficial for pest control (eating cockroaches).
I’ve eaten (culinary) spiders, but would put any that were that large out of the house or send them to arachnid heaven, depending where they were at the point of discovery.
I’ve eaten a lot of thing; rattlesnakes, carp and alligator gar (yuck), squirrels, rabbits, quail… but I pretty much draw the line at insects.
Lonely? How about a spider friend.
(sorry no spoiler, it is a spider thread after all!)
I’ve had grasshoppers and ants. Both were tasty.
Ants aren’t acrid?
The many flavors of edible ants. Quote:
Weaver ants were characterized as having a nutty, sweet and caramel-like aroma caused by the presence of various pyrazines and pyrroles, but the researchers also detected hay and urine-like off-flavors likely due to high concentrations of amines.
Hmmm…nutty and sweet caramel with just a hint of urine. How could you ever say no
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However yep, I’ve seen people praise acridness in edible ants. I hung out with several entomologists in college and unsurprisingly a couple of them (but definitely not all of them) were fascinated with edible insects. I have a book on the topic I got as a gift from one of them one year.
Not my thing, personally. But whatever spins your beanie I say.
When on the rare occasion I squish one, that acrid smell I smell doesn’t have me salivating. But different strokes…
Not acrid at all. Sour. But also a little sweet. We joked that they tasted like sweet tarts. There are a lot of species of ants. I imagine they taste different.
Kidney ‘n’ Praline Surprise?
Lucky spiders ain’t insects then really… ![]()
I’ve tried a few different ants- most notably an African species (don’t know what, was given it dried) which tasted a bit like blue cheese but with more legs, and South American lemon ants, which, well, you’ll never guess what they taste like. Never knowingly eaten a spider though.
The spiders I get in the house are the same assortment of species I see in the woodshed, the garden shed, the greenhouse etc. I believe they may have some requirements regarding habitats that are relatively sheltered and dry, but I don’t believe those requirements are so very specific as to only be met by a house.
Whenever spider-related threads pop up I’m reminded of former(?) poster Lynne42 who overcame her arachnophobia and went on to write a book about it: Spiders: learning to love them
Yes, I’m pretty sure those “house spiders” evolved to live in human-built sheltered spaces, like sheds. Not in modern climate-controlled houses.
Accepted that the species “house spider” - which is smallish spider that stays near its web usually - is synanthropic, evolved to live with us in shelters. What fraction of spiders that I see routinely in my house are that species vs other spiders just wandering through?
I can’t find anything searching. Anyone with better … web skills … than I have?
Oh, that’s a visual.
This maybe?
The Vermin Protective Association is very active on social media these days.
I recently got an unsolicited Facebook post extolling the virtues of wasps, which included their “slender, graceful bodies” and supposedly eating ticks.
Leaving aside waspian beauty
, tick consumption apparently isn’t something associated with large stinging wasps, but instead involves tiny parasitic wasps which don’t sting humans. Sorry wasp lovers, but when full-sized wasps or hornets build nests on my porch or on/in the garage, they’re getting sprayed and eliminated.
Good news on the ant invasion front: after unsuccessful efforts with standard borax traps, I found an anticide called Advion, which comes as a translucent gel. Apply it near ant invasion/iinfestation points, and ants will feast on it and bring it home to their colony, where all will die in a Jonestown-like cataclysm. Our ant problem appears solved.
There are probably ant-o-philes who deplore such measures and urge us to live in peace with our multifooted mini-brethren, but mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.