# So sick of the reluctant hero trope... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 13, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-sick-of-the-reluctant-hero-trope/746028 "2016-02-13T16:58:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-sick-of-the-reluctant-hero-trope/746028/21 "2016-02-16T16:51:27Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Ignorance fought. I appreciate the clarification. For some reason, I thought it was a remake of an existing movie, not just a Westlake story. It was both. The original movie, _Point Blank_, had Lee Marvin in the lead role. Oh, and Westlake write a whole series of excellent Parker novels. Well worth your time. ---
**Author:** ![stosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stosh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stosh)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-sick-of-the-reluctant-hero-trope/746028/22 "2016-02-20T23:15:06Z")
That is tiresome and another one is when there is a group of people ( good guys or bad ), there has to be one black guy and another has to be a hot woman that can kick any three guys asses. She usually dresses in black leather. You can have six bad guys with machine guns shooting at the good guy and they all miss. The leader of the bad guys has to survive so he can fight ( usually a fistfight ) it out with the good guy. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-sick-of-the-reluctant-hero-trope/746028/23 "2016-02-20T23:18:00Z")
… but he’ll end up impaled on a jagged metal pole. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-sick-of-the-reluctant-hero-trope/746028/24 "2016-02-21T00:03:14Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > Asked and answered. A hero isn’t someone **eager** to go on a killing spree. You need to kill a bunch of innocent people and kidnap one of his loved ones, or he’s just a murdering bastard, just like the bad guys. Naaah, you just need to [give 'em a black trenchcoat.](http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Punisher-Blade-Marvel-Comics.jpg) Works like a charm. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-sick-of-the-reluctant-hero-trope/746028/25 "2016-02-21T11:46:32Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Naaah, you just need to [give 'em a black trenchcoat.](http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Punisher-Blade-Marvel-Comics.jpg) Works like a charm. (Un)dead mom, murdered wife and kids. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-sick-of-the-reluctant-hero-trope/746028/26 "2016-02-21T18:49:06Z")
I’m okay with Mighty Bob being a Reluctant Hero. I don’t have any preconceived notions about Mighty Bob. For Green Lantern to be a self centered jerk, for the Lone Ranger to be an incompetent led around by a crazy man, and for the Green Hornet to be a complete idiot backed up by his irritable and supercompetent sidekick… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-sick-of-the-reluctant-hero-trope/746028.md?page=1)