# So, some guys are breast guys, and some guys aren't

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 19, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348 "2015-05-19T03:41:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![nicole1912](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9de0a6/32.png) [@nicole1912](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicole1912)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/41 "2015-05-21T12:18:20Z")

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I bet **Leaffan** wishes he’d given this thread a different title, given the number of people who clearly don’t read posts very carefully!

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/42 "2015-05-21T12:30:25Z")

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I read (most of) the posts, I certainly read the OP, but this thread took a left turn at Albuquerque…

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**Author:** ![nicole1912](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9de0a6/32.png) [@nicole1912](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicole1912)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/43 "2015-05-21T12:47:14Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> I read (most of) the posts, I certainly read the OP, but this thread took a left turn at Albuquerque…

Oh, no, sorry, that wasn’t aimed at you (or anyone else in particular)! Just a general observation reading through the thread; I don’t think it went quite the way the OP probably intended!

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/44 "2015-05-21T13:18:55Z")

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I’ve learned a valuable lesson about thread titles and people’s inability to read and comprehend the OP.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/45 "2015-05-21T13:21:45Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’ve learned a valuable lesson about thread titles and people’s inability to read and comprehend the OP.

I keep learning the same lesson every few years. About 25% of posters don’t bother with OPs. All about the title baby.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/46 "2015-05-21T14:28:47Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Or, and I’m just throwing this out… Women like shoes. 🙂

Damn! ☹

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/47 "2015-05-21T15:48:37Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> well the test for that was pretty easy. The nanosecond my friend admitted he was an airline pilot he was set upon like bacon to hungry dogs. Sorry if this bothers you but we thought it was frickin hilarious…

I’d be interested the nanosecond he said that, too, but because it’s an unusual occupation - not vanishingly rare, but certainly not common - and therefore I’d find both the topic and the man attached to it intriguing.

Sorry if you or your buddies assume this means I’m gonna even \*let \*you in my pants, let alone \*pursue \*your dick.

> [@Magiver](#):
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> … … Drink some camomile tea while watching an episode of Bridezilla and have a laugh…

That was unnecessarily contentious. :dubious:

Drink some Natty Lite beer while watching an episode of ESPN golf reruns and have a laugh …

> [@Magiver](#):
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> … Clearly your experiences in bars were different in your youth or your memory has faded. …

You paint women with a broad brush. A whole buncha posters come in to point out how they don’t fit your stereotype. You blame our faulty memories. Ah, yes, that must be it.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/48 "2015-05-21T16:15:44Z")

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> [@Arrendajo](#):
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> Doesn’t anyone like small, bespectacled, intellectual men?

> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Yes :). (Spectacles are optional)
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> But I’m taken too, I fear…

Yep, count me in too.

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**Author:** ![Cara\_mel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Cara\_mel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cara_mel)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/49 "2015-05-21T21:19:20Z")

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In answer to the OP, I will always check out a stout man - even better if hairy:)

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/50 "2015-05-22T03:42:11Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Odd how the attention changes when it becomes known who does what.
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> It got so bad one night that my airline pilot buddy just started lying about what he did.

I don’t even know which way your buddy might be lying-- making more, making less? I haven’t the faintest idea what a pilot might make. I would say “what do you do?” because it’s a way to spark a conversation, not because I am thinking about income.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/51 "2015-05-22T10:24:54Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I don’t even know which way your buddy might be lying-- making more, making less? I haven’t the faintest idea what a pilot might make. I would say “what do you do?” because it’s a way to spark a conversation, not because I am thinking about income.

I’m not doubting you. But pilots make good money and it was evident from the behavior that followed that it mattered. In this case we were all pilots but only one of us did it for a living. Somehow flying as a hobby didn’t hold the same fascination.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/52 "2015-05-22T10:40:16Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I’m not doubting you. But pilots make good money and it was evident from the behavior that followed that it mattered. In this case we were all pilots but only one of us did it for a living. Somehow flying as a hobby didn’t hold the same fascination.

I can just see the conversation:  
Lisa: What kind of work are you in, Joe?  
Joe: I’m a pilot for United Airlines.  
Lisa: Oh wow, that’s awesome!  
Magiver: Oooh, me too, I have a little plane I fly for fun!  
Bob: Yeah, I do that too, pay attention to meeee!  
Lisa: :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/53 "2015-05-22T10:51:08Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> I’d be interested the nanosecond he said that, too, but because it’s an unusual occupation - not vanishingly rare, but certainly not common - and therefore I’d find both the topic and the man attached to it intriguing.

Good for you. Honestly. Now tell me because you don’t like expensive shoes that a statement suggesting women do is false or that men don’t like sports or that women can’t like sports.

> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Sorry if you or your buddies assume this means I’m gonna even \*let \*you in my pants, let alone \*pursue \*your dick.

He didn’t assume anything other than to cross these women off his list of potential mates. He wasn’t interested in “getting into their pants” which makes your assumption sad and funny at the same time because you’re making the same type of assumption you think can’t be made from observed behavior.

> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> You paint women with a broad brush. A whole buncha posters come in to point out how they don’t fit your stereotype. You blame our faulty memories. Ah, yes, that must be it.

No I blame your sense of political correctness and insistence that any observed behavior is somehow an indication of how every person on the planet behaves. Like it or not there are men who like large breasts and women who like large wallets. We evolved from a society where men made the money and that was a major part of the equation when marriage was considered. We still see the vestiges of that in engagement rings and expensive weddings so don’t come in here all butt hurt that there are a noticeable number of young women who find wealth a desirable trait.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/54 "2015-05-22T11:04:39Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I can just see the conversation:  
> Lisa: What kind of work are you in, Joe?  
> Joe: I’m a pilot for United Airlines.  
> Lisa: Oh wow, that’s awesome!  
> Magiver: Oooh, me too, I have a little plane I fly for fun!  
> Bob: Yeah, I do that too, pay attention to meeee!  
> Lisa: :dubious:

Actually you’re pretty close. It was the commercial pilot who worked his buddies into the conversation. Somehow the love of flying didn’t matter. The young ladies were written off from the start because of this but we had fun watching it unfold.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/55 "2015-05-22T11:33:05Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Actually you’re pretty close. It was the commercial pilot who worked his buddies into the conversation. Somehow the love of flying didn’t matter. The young ladies were written off from the start because of this but we had fun watching it unfold.

I dunno–the whole thing comes across as kind of coattails.

In any case, look at how you originally responded to the question about what women were interested in:

> [@you](#):
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> Wallets, even more seriously.
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> Years ago some of my buddies and I decided to keep track of how soon we were asked what we did for a living. Not IF we were asked. It was almost a given. It was usually within 2 minutes of introduction.

Here you’re saying it’s a given that women ask what guys do for a living because they want to know about the dude’s wallet, because that’s what they’re attracted to.

That’s the sort of misogynist bullshit that people object to.

Later, you simultaneously back off and attack, saying:

> [@](#):
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> I blame your sense of political correctness and insistence that any observed behavior is somehow an indication of how every person on the planet behaves. Like it or not there are men who like large breasts and women who like large wallets. We evolved from a society where men made the money and that was a major part of the equation when marriage was considered. We still see the vestiges of that in engagement rings and expensive weddings so don’t come in here all butt hurt that there are a noticeable number of young women who find wealth a desirable trait.

Note the irony of the first sentence: when people object to your conclusion that “it’s almost a given” that a woman is attracted to a man’s wallet, you respond by accusing THEM of saying that “any observed behavior is somehow an indication of how every person on the planet behaves.”

Not to put to fine a point on it, but no u.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/56 "2015-05-22T11:40:42Z")

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I made no absolutes about anything. I pointed out an observed behavior which is no different than any other observed behavior. Did you think it was an absolute when I said women like shoes?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/57 "2015-05-22T11:54:28Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I made no absolutes about anything. I pointed out an observed behavior which is no different than any other observed behavior. Did you think it was an absolute when I said women like shoes?

I thought when you said “it was almost a given” that you were saying something was almost absolute. Did you not intend it that way?

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/58 "2015-05-22T13:20:45Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Good for you. Honestly. Now tell me because you don’t like expensive shoes that a statement suggesting women do is false …

IF: \*\*purple \*\*doesn’t like expensive shoes (a true IRL statement, as it happens)  
{AND}  
IF: \*\*purple \*\*is a woman (likewise, an IRL truth, which makes it easier to follow this little logic experiment)  
THEN: the statement “\*\*\*all \*\*\*women like expensive shoes” is false  
{AND}  
THEN: the statement “\*\*\*some \*\*\*women like expensive shoes” is true

But your statements earlier paint women with such a crudely drawn broad brush that it’s understandable that the majority of people reading your posts would reasonably assume that you were not referring only to a select few individuals in your statements.

> [@Magiver](#):
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> … He didn’t assume anything other than to cross these women off his list of potential mates. He wasn’t interested in “getting into their pants” …

… _ **after** _ their perceived gold-digging behavior. Which means that while they were still potential candidates, a bit of pants-getting-into would have been highly acceptable.

> [@Magiver](#):
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> … No I blame your sense of political correctness and insistence that any observed behavior is somehow an indication of how every person on the planet behaves.

But isn’t that what you did?

> [@Magiver](#):
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> …don’t come in here all butt hurt that there are a noticeable number of young women who find wealth a desirable trait.

Still not sure what that has to do with the OP, though. I thought we were trying to agree if some guys are into ta-tas while others are not.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/59 "2015-05-22T13:40:56Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Still not sure what that has to do with the OP, though. I thought we were trying to agree if some guys are into ta-tas while others are not.

Reread the OP :).

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-some-guys-are-breast-guys-and-some-guys-arent/720348/60 "2015-05-22T13:55:40Z")

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Personally, I find casual misogyny very sexy.

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