# So tell me about Ben Carson...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 2, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154 "2014-12-02T19:11:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/241 "2015-03-14T00:35:01Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> If Clinton used his student deferments, he must also then have been a chicken hawk, or perhaps just a chicken. The difference between Bush and Clinton is that Bush did actually go into the Texas Air National Guard.

Really? When did Clinton throw the US military into a conflict for which it was unprepared and then claim victory while American boys were still dying so that they could claim victory (and then leave us there in active conflict for another 4 or 5 years)?

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**Author:** ![CGav8r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@CGav8r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGav8r)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/242 "2015-03-14T14:29:51Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Really? When did Clinton throw the US military into a conflict for which it was unprepared and then claim victory while American boys were still dying so that they could claim victory (and then leave us there in active conflict for another 4 or 5 years)?

Too true.  
If you have a problem with Vietnam war, protest and use your deferments. But being pro-war and then using deferments or weaseling out thru going into Nat’l Guard is another thing entirely.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/243 "2015-03-14T15:19:39Z")

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Sooo…

Tell me about this Carson guy.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/244 "2015-03-14T15:46:50Z")

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(thread shortened for snark value)

Nana-nana-nana-nana batshit! Batshit!

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/245 "2015-03-16T01:14:23Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Sooo…
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> Tell me about this Carson guy.

I liked him better than Leno, but this Fallon kid is growing on me.

(looking at the thread title)

Who the hell is Ben Carson? Which is a question you’ll hear now and then for the next few months, then never to be asked again until some Trivia Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/246 "2015-03-16T01:49:14Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Eh, he said the constitution prevents Obama from seeking a third term. Which is accurate enough.

Actual quoted answer from Carson to WND’s question:

_“We the people would oppose it through our Constitution, the 22nd Amendment of which forbids more than two terms. Even some of the timid people in the other two branches of government would be willing to stand behind the fortified walls of our Constitution.”_

Gee, it sounds like he thinks it’s reasonable to believe Obama actually might stage this horrifying assault on the “fortified walls of our Constitution”. Or else (and more likely) Carson is too timid to risk offending the nutbars who are worried about such nonsense (and who he sees as an essential part of his “base”).

Either way, bleah.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/247 "2015-03-16T02:01:38Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I liked him better than Leno, but this Fallon kid is growing on me.
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> (looking at the thread title)
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> Who the hell is Ben Carson? Which is a question you’ll hear now and then for the next few months, then never to be asked again until some Trivia Tuesday.

He was Hoss and Little Joe’s dad.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/248 "2015-03-16T05:20:31Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> _“We the people would oppose it through our Constitution, the 22nd Amendment of which forbids more than two terms. Even some of the timid people in the other two branches of government would be willing to stand behind the fortified walls of our Constitution.”_
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> Gee, it sounds like he thinks it’s reasonable to believe Obama actually might stage this horrifying assault on the “fortified walls of our Constitution”. Or else (and more likely) Carson is too timid to risk offending the nutbars who are worried about such nonsense (and who he sees as an essential part of his “base”).

And the Republicans have been so timid during the Obama administration, just letting him do whatever he wants, but something like this could get them fired up.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/249 "2015-03-16T10:22:27Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I suspect he’s angling for a TV show. Although I wouldn’t put Surgeon General in a GOP administration out of reach either.

I would, on account of the fact that there aren’t going to be any more GOP administrations.

I’d be okay with a Democratic president appointing him to Surgeon General, though. He seems like he’d do an okay job.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/250 "2015-03-16T13:28:22Z")

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There were rumors back in the day that both Clinton and Dubya would seize power when their second terms were drawing to a close. Some people will believe anything.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I would, on account of the fact that there aren’t going to be any more GOP administrations…

Come on. Democrats enjoy an edge in the Electoral College math right now, but no party has an eternal lock on the White House.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/251 "2015-03-16T15:41:18Z")

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My favorite story about how Obama will do it is that he’ll use his evil Muslim powers to build up the economy so strongly that he’ll have the popular support of a dictator, use that popularity to force an amendment through eliminating term limits, get re-elected, and _then_ use his extra time in office to destroy the country. 😉

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/252 "2015-03-20T18:47:41Z")

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[Ben Carson solves the Palestinian problem:](http://www.salon.com/2015/03/20/ben_carsons_fresh_foreign_policy_just_sort_of_slip_palestinians_down_to_egypt/)

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> “We need to look at fresh ideas,” said Carson. “I don’t have any problem with the Palestinians having a state, but does it need to be within the confines of Israeli territory? Is that necessary, or can you sort of slip that area down into Egypt? Right below Israel, they have some amount of territory, and it can be adjacent. They can benefit from the many agricultural advances that were made by Israel, because if you fly over that area, you can easily see the demarcation between Egypt and Israel, in terms of one being desert and one being verdant. Technology could transform that area. So why does it need to be in an area where there’s going to be temptation for Hamas to continue firing missiles at relatively close range to Israel?”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/253 "2015-03-20T19:59:19Z")

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I can’t even. I literally just. Cannot. Even.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/254 "2015-03-21T02:21:26Z")

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So, adaher, still liking Ben Carson?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/255 "2015-03-21T12:51:22Z")

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BrainGlutton, you posted this exact same thing in three different threads. Please refrain from the cut and paste style of posting in the future. If you have something to add, at least try to be creative about it.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/256 "2015-03-21T13:25:41Z")

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Oh man, now we have to be _creative_?? I can’t handle this kind of pressure.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/257 "2015-03-21T13:27:16Z")

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Well, it’s only for certain values of creative. Typing anything original is a good start.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/258 "2015-03-21T13:57:05Z")

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Cripes, now we have to evaluate our our degrees creativity.

Hey, I noticed my spell checker didn’t cough up any complaints about ‘cripes’!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/259 "2015-03-21T15:33:01Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> BrainGlutton, you posted this exact same thing in three different threads. Please refrain from the cut and paste style of posting in the future. If you have something to add, at least try to be creative about it.

:dubious: **Of course** I did. It fit **perfectly** in all three. **That,** sir, is creativity.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-tell-me-about-ben-carson/706154/260 "2015-03-21T16:00:59Z")

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Nah. **That** , sir, is **annoying**. Carson’s idiocy has little to do with the Israeli Knesset elections and their aftermath other than it is something someone said about Israel. You might as well reanimate every old Israel thread and add it to the end of them too.

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