# So, Terr, how is Boycott/Divestment/Sanctions anti-Semitic **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 15, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629 "2015-06-15T23:02:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/101 "2015-06-16T18:07:31Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > What do you think will happen when a country of 7 million people lets in 5 million people who have spent the past 70 years hating and resenting them? What do you think will happen when they start demanding that hundreds of thousands of Israelis give them “their” property back? It’ll make what’s happening in Syria look like a squabble over a parking space. What happened when they gave blacks in South Africa the vote? I think the blacks in South Africa spent a few decades under Apartheid. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/102 "2015-06-16T18:12:37Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What do you mean by “widespread”? 1% of the left? 10%? 50%? 95%? I haven’t seen anything that suggests it’s more than a small fraction of the left, at least in the US. It also depends on how closely you conflate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism. Blacks do not have a monopoly on “playing the race card” ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/103 "2015-06-16T18:14:11Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I personally haven’t accused anyone of being an anti-semite. I have, however, accused people of being anti-Israeli, and frankly, the difference between someone wanting to hurt me because I’m Jewish and someone wanting to hurt me because I’m Israeli, well, it’s six of one or half a dozen of the other, you know? I think a lot of people who seem anti-Israel are actually anti-Israel’s-current-policies just like a lot of anti-American sentiment under bush was actually anti-then-current-American-policies ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/104 "2015-06-16T18:18:02Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > I don’t think it is simply a matter of percentages. In the ME, it appears to be widely understood (among both Israelis and Palestinians) that the full “right of return” is not a matter of refugees simply accepting some sort of land compensation and then settling down to become Israeli citizens like the current Arab-Israeli population, but rather a wholesale return to the status quo ante bellum. This was not my understanding. I thought it actually was a matter of giving people the right to become Israeli citizens and offer some form of just compensation. I have never heard anyone (including Israeli commentators) say that right of return meant going back to 1947 conditions. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/105 "2015-06-16T18:23:08Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This doesn’t hold water, since there may very well be other groups that identify more often with the right that have much higher rates of anti-semitism – for example (as possibilities, not certainties), white racists, anti-immigrants, paleo-conservatives, Christian dominionists, end-of-the-world folks, etc. But according to the cite I gave you though their rates may be high, their numbers are tiny. As in “This means [that] of the 70% or so of the population that is not African American or Latino, only 3% hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views. Put another way, less than 5% of whites, Asians, and “others” (including Native Americans) combined hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views, compared to over 30% of African Americans and Latinos” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/106 "2015-06-16T18:29:25Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > But according to the cite I gave you though their rates may be high, their numbers are tiny. As in > > “This means [that] of the 70% or so of the population that is not African American or Latino, only 3% hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views. Put another way, less than 5% of whites, Asians, and “others” (including Native Americans) combined hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views, compared to over 30% of African Americans and Latinos” This doesn’t refute my point – the African Americans and Latinos who happen to have anti-Semitic views might be more likely to be conservative (or not), and the same goes for the rest of the population polled. I won’t say I’m not troubled by the findings, but I’m entirely unconvinced that anti-Semitism is more of a problem on the left than the right in the US. All of the personal anti-Semitism that I have experienced (mostly in the Navy) in which I knew the politics of the offender has been from people with conservative political views. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/107 "2015-06-16T18:47:17Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > This was not my understanding. I thought it actually was a matter of giving people the right to become Israeli citizens and offer some form of just compensation. I have never heard anyone (including Israeli commentators) say that right of return meant going back to 1947 conditions. It is typically ‘coded’. To Westerners, Palestinians talk merely about compensation and perhaps a theoretical right for some limited number of Palestinians to ‘return’ (after all, Palestinains also want their own state, and how does having one’s own state ‘mesh’ with also having a ‘right to return’ to a totally different state?); however, among Palestinians, the ‘right of return’ means a literal ‘return’ to the time before “the disaster” in 1948. > **[Palestinian right of return](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_right_of_return)** > > The Palestinian right of return\[a\] is the political position or principle that Palestinian refugees, both first-generation refugees (c. 30,000 to 50,000 people still alive as of 2012\[update\]) and their descendants (c. 5 million people as of 2012\[update\]), have a right to return and a right to the property they themselves or their forebears left behind or were forced to leave in what is now Israel and the Palestinian territories (both formerly part of the British Mandate of Palestine) dur The r... An example to demonstrate the point: when Abbas publicly stated in 2012 that he was willing to admit that a “right of return” may not of necessity be a “return” of the very hometown which he left, but merely some compensation, he was met with a shit-storm of controversy - and recanted by stating this was only his private opinion and wasn’t any comment on Palestinian rights. > [@](#): > > In November 2012, Palestinian Authority President Mahmud Abbas repeated his stance that the claim of return was not to his original hometown, but to a Palestinian state that would be established at the 1967 border line. Hamas denounced this adjustment.[52][53] > > Abbas later clarified (for the Arab media) that this was his own personal opinion and not a policy of giving up the right of return. Israeli politicians denounced the clarification.[54] From the source: > [@](#): > > Abbas’s statements where he considered that Palestine is just the occupied territories in 1967 are unpatriotic statements and means cancelation for the ‘right of return,’" Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri said. “These statements reflect Abbas’s culture and will never reflect the stand of the Palestinian nation.” [http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2012/11/mil-121102-rferl01.htm](http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2012/11/mil-121102-rferl01.htm) Hamas is the party that is in line with typical Palestinian asperations on this, not Abbas (and in fact, he was forced to recant, humiliatingly). > **[Palestinian’s Remark, Seen as Concession, Stirs Uproar (Published 2012)](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/world/middleeast/in-palestine-abbas-spurs-right-of-return-uproar.html?_r=0)** > > President Mahmoud Abbas jolted Palestinians and Israelis over the right-of-return issue by saying he would not want to move back to his birth city, Safed, which is now part of Israel. It is clear that when Palestinians talk about the “right of return”, they typically want it to mean a “return” _of_ Palestine to the pre-1948 borders (whether through demographics or otherwise) - any hint that their leaders are veering away from that interpretation is met with massive protests. Abbas made the mistake of publicly giving a version of the Western ‘liberal’ interpretation of that “right of return” (that is, that it means effectively compensation and not a literal ‘return’ to pre-1948, in which he would, literally, take up his family’s prior abode) - which is exactly why he set off mass protests. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/108 "2015-06-16T18:57:56Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Is Israel the more educated, advanced, and civilized of the two main antagonists? Yes. To my mind, that means that the responsibility to be the more humane is theirs. Thus, my admiration for Israel is at the core of my criticism. I expect more, and am sadly and consistently disappointed. > > Is the resistance of Hamas courage, or fanaticism? How does it compare to the Irgun of 1948? Do we admire the Poles for their cavalry charge against an armored _Wermacht_ or condemn the senseless and futile bloodshed? > > In every violent struggle, there is a last blow delivered, but not answered. Often, it is because one of the antagonists is too weak and bloodied, they would retaliate if they could, but cannot. Or, more rarely, one side refrains in the interests of peace and humanity. Who better but the more civilized, more educated, and massively more powerful? If not Israel, who? If not now, when? > > Or shall Israel follow the ghastly example of European Americans and their treatment of indigenous American peoples? Grind them down to dust and then throw them a couple of pathetic reservations and demand that they accept bygones be bygone? “You lost, tough shit, get over it”. > > I admire Israel more or less generally, I admire the moral courage of its peace movement more than any other modern political example. I hope they will have their way, if God shall cease to avert His eyes… > > Alas. ``` There would be no point to having an Israel that wasn't Jewish. The world made it necessary at that moment and it happened. There may have been indigenous people who were displaced but I'd like to know how many. Certainly they could be accommodated. But it's really skewed now. Many were drawn to the area. many migrated in their interests, the same as Jews migrated to America and Israel. They came because it was in their economic interest to be close to Israel. Their own governments had a lot to say about it too. (Maybe an example of their non-education, non-advancement and un-civilization.) The palestinians are not comparable to indigenous americans. You have different standards for behavior amongst the two worlds. Another way of having a double standard might be to say that israel is small, most of it inconsequential to Arab nations, (most other Arabs are inconsequential to Arab nations) except that they want to cleanse the area of Jews, of which israel is the one nation. So if I had a double standard it would be based on that. There is no example of a new order similar to joining these two worlds, one of which is set to destroy the other, less than 100 years after the smaller one began as a population that was nearly cleansed out of Europe. Everywhere you look you see Jews helping, participating, inventing, creating. Life would be nasty brutish and short without jews contributions, and that goes for the whole world: Anyone whose life is enlightened or prolonged by science or medicine, or the arts. What civil rights workers got murdered in Mississippi? So maybe the Palestinian thing is the lowpoint of Jewish public life. But I think the world owes the Jews better than a double standard. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/109 "2015-06-16T19:10:18Z")
Funny the anglo-splaining of what the arab palestinians really mean… it is also funny that in the palestinians I have always known that they did not believe return was in reality more a hard negotiating point to push for the east jerusalem and the entire land of the west bank. As in the less selective quoting of the nyt > [@](#): > > Mkhaimar Abusada, a political scientist at Al Azhar University in Gaza City, said Palestinians “are willing to make big compromises on the right of return,” but only in exchange for a state along the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as its capital (a point that Mr. Abbas emphasized in the television interview, though it was largely lost in the frenzy over his Safed remark). of course the hamas activists will make noise as they have the view that Israel is not honestly negotiating either. And so the endless idiocy continues. but perhaps less anglo-splaining… ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/110 "2015-06-16T19:17:48Z")
Not all of us here are “anglos”, Ramira. Some of us are a lot closer to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than your are. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/111 "2015-06-16T19:23:38Z")
So it’s merely a hard negotiating point which is exactly as Malthus described it? Thanks for the arab-splaining. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/112 "2015-06-16T19:27:00Z")
No what he was asserting was the usual discourse of the lying decietful arabes and jumping over the real 1967 objectives and the focus among the great number of palestinians of the point as the leverage against the constant expansion of the settlements. so yes, the anglo-splaining. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/113 "2015-06-16T19:35:11Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Funny the anglo-splaining of what the arab palestinians really mean… > > it is also funny that in the palestinians I have always known that they did not believe return was in reality more a hard negotiating point to push for the east jerusalem and the entire land of the west bank. > As in the less selective quoting of the nyt > of course the hamas activists will make noise as they have the view that Israel is not honestly negotiating either. And so the endless idiocy continues. > > but perhaps less anglo-splaining… I’m Ashknazi and Yankee. Guess I’m an anglo. Your first sentence is not a sentence. I can’t understand your message. that might be just me though. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/114 "2015-06-16T19:36:14Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Not all of us here are “anglos”, Ramira. Some of us are a lot closer to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than your are. yes that is true, but you notice I do not make any sweeping statement. But i do know better than the non-arabophone and it is prejudiced and unbalanced to present as he did. of course there are the 1948 irredentistes, but they are not The Palestinians tout court and the 1967 objectives and the resetnment and the seeing this as a tool against the settlements and the expropriations is important as the factor, which was passed in total silence, for the purpose it is clear of the distortion. the lying decientful arab narrative is as bad as the same one told on the arab side of the Israeli-Jewish. I am objecting to both. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/115 "2015-06-16T20:15:53Z")
Generally: What is the “lying, deceitful Arab” narrative? I hope I haven’t contributed. What about the “Honest Arab” narrative in which they do not recognize Israels right, can’t tolerate the idea of jews, and express it? We know this is at issue because of improvements in communication and translation. Some very candid things were said. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/116 "2015-06-16T20:22:31Z")
You are demonstrating it very nicely it appears, this narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/117 "2015-06-16T20:26:05Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > So it’s merely a hard negotiating point which is exactly as Malthus described it? Thanks for the arab-splaining. It’s not my facts she objects to, it’s the fact that I am presenting them. 😃 But yes, I did find it very amusing that - in attempted refutaion of my position - she simply re-confirmed its accuracy. I wonder if anyone on her “side” really stopped to think about it logically: how does one square a “right of return” with a “new Palestinian state” on the WB, unless it is just a code for compensation? The vast majority of refugees aren’t from the WB, they are originally from pre-1967 Israel. The notion that it is simply the reaction of a few Hamas hot-heads lacks reality. It is Abbas who was the outlier on this, not them - hence his climb-down. If the majority in the actual area agreed with Hamas, no climb-down would have been necessary. As stated in the NYT article: > [@](#): > > He has been doing many mistakes, and this is one of them — his vocabulary was totally wrong,” said Mahdi Abdul Hadi, chairman of the Palestinian Academic Society for the Study of International Affairs, based in Jerusalem. “He underestimated the reaction; he underestimated the anger and the frustration in the society; he underestimated his constituency. It’s very clear that he’s not the hero, he’s not the liberator, he’s not the leader.” Note that this is from Mahdi Abdul Hadi, chairman of the Palestinian Academic Society for the Study of International Affairs - hardly, as far as I know, a Hamas hot-head. Other non-Hamas reactions: > [@](#): > > From London, Abdel Bari Atwan, the editor of Al Quds Al Arabi, wrote a column under the headline “Please Do Not Speak on Our Behalf.” > > “How can we expect President Abbas to defend the right to return seriously and faithfully while he himself disbelieves it and has no intention to achieve it for himself and for his children and grandchildren?” asked Mr. Atwan, who was born in a refugee camp. “This is our land and this is our right; and thus, we demand him not to speak on our behalf if he does not wish to be one of us.” All Abbas did was publicly articulate the common Western notion of what the “right of return” means. This was seen as a grave betrayal of Palistinian asperations. To quote Abdel Bari Atwan: “This is our land and this is our right". What is the reasonable interpretation of this? I fully sympathize with Abbas - he is in the impossible position of attempting to negotiate a deal with the Israelis on the one hand, where his own people’s un-negotiable demand, on the other, is completely unacceptable. The notion that a compromise can be ‘sold’ is a bit of an illusion. This leads to chimeras like the notion that the right of return isn’t meant seriously - “was in reality more a hard negotiating point” - which, while acceptable to Western audiences, led directly to protests in the ME (and a huge climb-down) when Abbas attempted to publicly state it. Note that this is hardly my “prejudiced and unbalanced” view - it is simply what emerges from actually reading the sources. Including, as it happens, those who disagree with me. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/118 "2015-06-16T20:36:27Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Funny the anglo-splaining of what the arab palestinians really mean… > > it is also funny that in the palestinians I have always known that they did not believe return was in reality more a hard negotiating point to push for the east jerusalem and the entire land of the west bank. > As in the less selective quoting of the nyt > of course the hamas activists will make noise as they have the view that Israel is not honestly negotiating either. And so the endless idiocy continues. > > but perhaps less anglo-splaining… This is interesting - you are arguing that I am demonizing Palestinians with “the lying decientful arab narrative” – yet it is you who claim that Palestinians don’t in fact mean the “right of return” seriously? That it is simply “in reality more a hard negotiating point” (your words) to press for what they really want? 😕 Seems to me that I am the one assuming that Palestinians say what they mean, and you are the one claiming they are “lying deceitful arabs”. 😃 Particularly if you examine how the issue arose in this thread, which I invite you to do - it was because an organization in America was pressing for a boycott of Israel , and it was being criticized for supporting the “right of return”. Which you have just asserted isn’t meant seriously! In reality, Palestinians negotiators like Abbas are between a rock and a hard place, and I have every sympathy for them: the population in the ME very clearly understands the “right of return” to be meant literally, and of course (as Abbas well knows) this is totally a non-starter for Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/119 "2015-06-17T00:13:18Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > . . . The vast majority of refugees aren’t from the WB, they are originally from pre-1967 Israel. . . . . And aren’t the vast majority of those in the refugee camps and cities descandants of those who were originally from pre-1967 Israel? What is the proportion of actual refugees, as opposed to those who were born into refugee status outside of Israel? Unless the right of return is heritable, it seems likely to fade away with time by ordinary actuarial processes. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629/120 "2015-06-17T01:43:14Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > I’m Ashknazi and Yankee. Guess I’m an anglo. > > Your first sentence is not a sentence. I can’t understand your message. that might be just me though. English is not Ramira’s fist language and while she and I have butted heads on a couple of occasions I’d hardly fault her for it, particularly since she is usually still able to get across her point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-terr-how-is-boycott-divestment-sanctions-anti-semitic/722629.md?page=7)