# So the BBC shows a swastika **URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600 **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share **Created:** [August 6, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600 "2006-08-06T20:28:40Z") **Posts on this page:** 20 **Page:** 1
### Author: ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/1 "2006-08-06T20:28:40Z")
See [picture 6](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/5250572.stm). They’ll probably take it down once people notice. ---
### Author: ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/2 "2006-08-06T20:30:43Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > See [picture 6](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/5250572.stm). They’ll probably take it down once people notice. Why would they do that? ---
### Author: ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/3 "2006-08-06T20:31:57Z")
No reason to take it down, it’s inoffensive in that context. Hell, half the imported foods in my cupboards have swastikas on the package. ---
### Author: ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/4 "2006-08-06T20:35:21Z")
The swastika is a perfectly valid hindu symbol. Had this been an American site I’m sure there’d be trouble, but I think that even if there are complaints, the BBC will stand their ground and keep it. ---
### Author: ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/5 "2006-08-06T20:39:39Z")
> [@MostlyClueless](#): > > The swastika is a perfectly valid hindu symbol. Buddhist, here. ---
### Author: ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/6 "2006-08-06T21:04:00Z")
Hot Asian girls - awesome! ---
### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/7 "2006-08-06T21:26:14Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > See [picture 6](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/5250572.stm). They’ll probably take it down once people notice. Don’t ask me why, but I don’t think the little Asian girl with flowers in her hair is a Nazi. ---
### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/8 "2006-08-06T21:28:14Z")
> [@Argent Towers](#): > > Hot Asian girls - awesome! The girl in #2 is a little hairier than I like. ---
### Author: ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/9 "2006-08-06T21:29:10Z")
Good for them. The symbol is being used in a very valid and honest context, and only outside perception could make it otherwise. Five quid says ‘otherwise’. :S ---
### Author: ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/10 "2006-08-06T22:01:09Z")
The Nazi swastika has the arms going the other way. ---
### Author: ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/11 "2006-08-06T22:37:52Z")
I would think there would be a problem if the swastika was red, white, and black in color (“colors” of the Nazis). But I think given the yellow and red, plus it’s in another context, you’ve distanced this particular symbol from most Socialist connotations. Tripler That’s my take on it, though. ---
### Author: ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd) #### Post date: [August 6, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/12 "2006-08-06T22:47:38Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > …distanced this particular symbol from most Socialist connotations The National Socialists were only nominally socialist. What’s needed is distance from _fascist_ connotations. [/good Canadian socialist] ---
### Author: ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace) #### Post date: [August 7, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/13 "2006-08-07T03:39:50Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > The National Socialists were only nominally socialist. > > What’s needed is distance from _fascist_ connotations. > > [/good Canadian socialist] Thanks for picking that one up. If you hadn’t, I would have. 🙂 \ ---
### Author: ![Number](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/number/32/242_2.png) [@Number](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Number) #### Post date: [August 7, 2006, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/14 "2006-08-07T04:27:25Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > The Nazi swastika has the arms going the other way. That is true in this instance, but the traditional ones [go both ways](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_156.html). > [@Cecil Adams](#): > > As a glance at a history book would show, the Nazi symbol was oriented in a clockwise direction. So, as often as not, was the ancient good luck/sun symbol sometimes known as the Wheel of Life ---
### Author: ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb) #### Post date: [August 7, 2006, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/15 "2006-08-07T05:09:09Z")
As **Zeldar** has noted, the orientation of the Nazi _hakenkreuz_ was the opposite of the BBC picture. As **Tripler** noted, the colors, yellowish on orange-red, do not match the red, black, and white colors of the Nazi symbol. And, as I will now point out, the Nazi _hakenkreuz_ was tilted 45° to stand on the point of one crooked arm. That photo is entirely innocent and should be left alone. ---
### Author: ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth) #### Post date: [August 7, 2006, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/16 "2006-08-07T06:02:19Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > That photo is entirely innocent and should be left alone. We don’t need no Fascist jackboots We don’t need no occult Krauts No rewarmed Wagner sparking race hate Nazis, leave my cross alone Hey, Nazis, leave my cross alone! ---
### Author: ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead) #### Post date: [August 7, 2006, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/17 "2006-08-07T09:10:11Z")
Come on. It’s obvious the photographer deliberately framed the photo to prominently include the symbol. Do you really think it made it onto the website with no one noticing? ---
### Author: ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo) #### Post date: [August 7, 2006, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/18 "2006-08-07T12:35:54Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Come on. It’s obvious the photographer deliberately framed the photo to prominently include the symbol. Do you really think it made it onto the website with no one noticing? You don’t know how much cropping, if any, the BBC did after they got the photo. For all you know, there’s an underground Nazi photo editor in their midst! ---
### Author: ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra) #### Post date: [August 7, 2006, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/19 "2006-08-07T21:36:33Z")
Write a complaint email and see what happens. ---
### Author: ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons) #### Post date: [August 7, 2006, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600/20 "2006-08-07T21:43:09Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > We don’t need no Fascist jackboots > We don’t need no occult Krauts > No rewarmed Wagner sparking race hate > Nazis, leave my cross alone > Hey, Nazis, leave my cross alone! Sniff. ‘Tis a thing of beauty. Nae a word could b’ said 'gainst ye. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-bbc-shows-a-swastika/367600.md?page=2)