# So, the President screwed the Media.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 20, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058 "2019-10-20T23:09:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/41 "2019-10-21T13:54:48Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Serious question, ignoring the obvious conflict of interest, is the resort actually a good place to host such a summit?

37% occupancy. It’s not a very good place to do anything.

Trump wasn’t lying when he said he would not make a profit from it, the Doral is a money loser all the time.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/42 "2019-10-21T14:00:46Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> 37% occupancy. It’s not a very good place to do anything.

Oh, I don’t know about that. It’s one of the few resorts left in Florida to just get away from it all.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/43 "2019-10-21T14:06:51Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Serious question, ignoring the obvious conflict of interest, is the resort actually a good place to host such a summit?

A bed-bug summit, maybe.

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**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/44 "2019-10-21T14:08:38Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Serious question, ignoring the obvious conflict of interest, is the resort actually a good place to host such a summit?

Miami. In summertime. AKA “hurricane season.” Conveniently located right by a busy international airport, for your peace-and-quiet pleasure. Not sure if there’s actually a flight path right over the resort, but I know the PGA golfers used to hate the air traffic noise back when Doral was on the tour.

And are we ignoring the bedbugs, the smell of stale spilled beer in the carpets, and the mildew for now?

Can’t see why that place would be undercooked in June.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/45 "2019-10-21T14:13:06Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Am I reading you right? The president is screwing taxpayers, because it lets him troll the media? And you’re pleased with this?
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> I’ve increasingly thought conservative philosophy has deteriorated to the point that it’s little more than pwning libs. But I never thought to see such a pure example of it in the wild.

It’s “identity politics” at its finest.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/46 "2019-10-21T14:16:08Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Serious question, ignoring the obvious conflict of interest, is the resort actually a good place to host such a summit?

I heard someone on NPR talking about this on Friday. I honestly can’t remember if it was a journalist/commentator or a security expert, but he was comparing Doral to previous summit sites. The previous sites were more secluded (Sea Island, GA; Camp David, MD; Williamsburg, VA) which benefited security planning, as compared to Doral, which is basically in an urban area.

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**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/47 "2019-10-21T14:37:45Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> Can’t see why that place would be undercooked in June.:rolleyes:

\*underBOOKED. Go to Hell, auto-incorrect.

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**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/48 "2019-10-21T14:44:50Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> 37% occupancy. It’s not a very good place to do anything.
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> Trump wasn’t lying when he said he would not make a profit from it, the Doral is a money loser all the time.

Unless he’s getting a loan, in which case it make a YUUUGE profit!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/49 "2019-10-21T14:56:08Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Am I reading you right? The president is screwing taxpayers, because it lets him troll the media? And you’re pleased with this?
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> I’ve increasingly thought conservative philosophy has deteriorated to the point that it’s little more than pwning libs. But I never thought to see such a pure example of it in the wild.

I hate to tell you, but this is pretty much ALL THEY HAVE LEFT at this point.

This is it. This is the pinnacle of conservative “thought”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/50 "2019-10-21T15:01:15Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> Not sure if there’s actually a flight path right over the resort…

I checked the satellite map; the driving range is in a direct line with runway 12 at Miami International, 2¾ miles to the southeast.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/51 "2019-10-21T15:03:41Z")

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OP, do you realize the Constitution forbids the president from using his office for profit? Or do you only pay attention to the gun rights part?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/52 "2019-10-21T15:14:08Z")

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A silver lining in the cloud of Trumpian corruption is that it’s pushing his opponents into “clean government” positions they’ll find it difficult to back out of later.

As mentioned in the article linked by the OP, Trump has awarded ambassadorships to big campaign donors, [a pattern of sleaziness followed by his predecessors](http://publicintegrity.org/federal-politics/barack-obamas-ambassador-legacy-plum-postings-for-big-donors/) as well. Now Elizabeth Warren is railing against the practice.

You go, Liz. Hopefully the “Media” will hold you to that one.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/53 "2019-10-21T15:15:50Z")

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I pity the O.P. - another soul corrupted by Trump and turned to evil, another mind brainwashed and turned to mush.

As already pointed out, it was Republicans that changed Trump’s mind, because the corruption was so blatant and self-evident that they had not even a fig leaf of a defense against it.

_The Hill_: [Trump dropped plan to host G-7 at Doral after Republican criticism: report](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466672-trump-dropped-plan-to-host-g-7-at-doral-resort-after-republican)

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> President Trump reversed course on his plan to host next year’s Group of Seven (G-7) at his Doral resort after receiving pushback from a number of Republicans criticized the move, The New York Times reports.
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> According to The Times, after widespread criticism from Democrats and some Republicans in the days following the White House’s announcement that the summit would be at Doral next year, Trump called into a meeting Saturday being held at Camp David by acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney with moderate Republicans.
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> The meeting reportedly served a space for the Republicans to discuss the House Democrats’ ongoing impeachment inquiry into Trump as well as other issues.
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> During the call, Trump was reportedly told that the majority of Republicans at the meeting said he should reverse his decision to host the G-7 summit at his luxury property in Miami.  
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> Shortly after the call, Trump announced via Twitter that the summit would no longer be held at his property on Saturday evening, two days after the White House announced it would.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/54 "2019-10-21T15:20:44Z")

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The president floated an idea so heinously corrupt that his own party threatened revolt, and reversed course to save face. Hahahaha, _suck it_, libs!

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**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/55 "2019-10-21T15:27:29Z")

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The word “free” only came up after Trump cancelled the summit at his bed bug infested property. Trump doesn’t do free. He even charged his son’s charity hundreds of thousands of dollars to use his golf course for a charity event.

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**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/56 "2019-10-21T15:35:07Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Serious question, ignoring the obvious conflict of interest, is the resort actually a good place to host such a summit?

The media has said no. Reasons given is that it is in the middle of communities, most conferences are near water, so one side is already effectively blocked. It is in a flight zone, so all those flights would have to be re-routed. The communities would be blocked and extremely inconvenienced. Also not sure what state of repair the facility is in.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/57 "2019-10-21T15:45:00Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> Miami. In summertime. AKA “hurricane season.” Conveniently located right by a busy international airport, for your peace-and-quiet pleasure. Not sure if there’s actually a flight path right over the resort, but I know the PGA golfers used to hate the air traffic noise back when Doral was on the tour.
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> And are we ignoring the bedbugs, the smell of stale spilled beer in the carpets, and the mildew for now?
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> Can’t see why that place would be undercooked in June.:rolleyes:

Hurricane season aside, Miami in June is anything but undercooked. Or under-humidified.

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**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/58 "2019-10-21T15:46:11Z")

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My cynical self tells me Trump was planning to do a major renovation before the summit to fix the problems at Dorel using taxpayer’s money “at cost.”

If the site had not been changed, I can see other world leaders having objected to the point of not coming to the summit.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/59 "2019-10-21T15:50:21Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Yeah, in some parts of the US (like here), a one hour trip each way to a job is called an “average commute.”

I commute to the office twice a week. The average time each way is about three hours.

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**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-president-screwed-the-media/842058/60 "2019-10-21T15:55:42Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> And are we ignoring the bedbugs, the smell of stale spilled beer in the carpets, and the mildew for now?
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> Can’t see why that place would be undercooked in June.:rolleyes:

Is it really that bad? I just wonder - if you are running a resort that charges top dollar, you would assume that standards at least equal to a Holiday inn Express would be upheld. You know, clean rooms that are frequently refurbished, immediately handling of any reported bed bugs with serious measures. (Strip the room bare and fumigate?).

I want to think that this would be trivial to happen. Just hire experienced and qualified hotel management and make sure they are empowered to spend money as needed to give guests a top tier experience. Doesn’t Hilton have a policy like that?

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