# So, the Vatican has absolved the Beatles

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 13, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910 "2010-04-13T01:35:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/21 "2010-04-13T23:54:35Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Now when are they going to forgive the molestation victims?

[Done and done!](http://www.theonion.com/articles/pope-forgives-molested-children,101/)

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/22 "2010-04-14T00:17:53Z")

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But Yoko is still going to hell I hope?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/23 "2010-04-14T01:19:15Z")

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Maybe they were informed of Mother Mary coming to Paul when he wakes up?

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**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/24 "2010-04-14T01:36:13Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Oh, yeah, sure, wait until three of them are dead!

Say what? Count again… 😃

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/25 "2010-04-14T01:48:07Z")

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> [@campp](#):
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> Say what? Count again… 😃

nam daed no em nruT

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/26 "2010-04-14T02:18:49Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> I won’t believe it unless the next pope takes the name George Ringo I.

I’ll bet you’re remembering the same National Lampoon headline I do:

_“John Paul elected Pope; George Ringo miffed.”_

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/27 "2010-04-14T02:22:23Z")

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> [@Manduck](#):
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> Now that the Vatican likes them they aren’t cool anymore ☹

“Ew, you like The _Beatles_?! Even the Pope likes them!”

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/28 "2010-04-14T02:23:59Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> This just seems surreal, to me. Had the Vatican made an official statement against them that they’re now rescinding? Why are the Beatles even a topic of discussion at all?

And the reference to the Fabs being “possibly Satanic”?? Just shows how utterly clueless and out of touch the Vatican is. Next they’re going to refer to the Pope as “The Holy Daddy-O.”

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/29 "2010-04-14T02:25:07Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> That does seem rather odd considering they didn’t exactly rescind that notion.

Yeah, I wouldn’t call the statements in the OP’s article by the Vatican spokesman to be a ringing endorsement so much as a capitulation. The fact that the connection to Satan was still on the table is just ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/30 "2010-04-14T16:22:38Z")

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April 28, 2682

“The Vatican announced today that homosexuality is no longer considered a sin and cause for eternal damnation. Priests celebrated at Gay bars around the world.”  
I remember when my die-hard Roman Catholic grandmother was appalled to hear the Vatican announce you could eat meat on Fridays. She remembered her beloved brother being thrown out of the house as a teenager because he did that - as her family considered this a mortal sin.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/31 "2010-04-14T16:24:34Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> I’ll bet you’re remembering the same National Lampoon headline I do:
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> _“John Paul elected Pope; George Ringo miffed.”_

Yep, complete with photo of Ringo in his _Lisztomania_ role as a pope.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/32 "2010-04-14T16:42:24Z")

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In a related story, seems Catholics are not amused by this [German cartoon](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/world/news/e3ia32c20e0500d8fa5ea4872e8a7bddf00?imw=Y).

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/33 "2010-04-14T17:27:50Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> I remember when my die-hard Roman Catholic grandmother was appalled to hear the Vatican announce you could eat meat on Fridays. She remembered her beloved brother being thrown out of the house as a teenager because he did that - as her family considered this a mortal sin.

We are fortunate to live in more enlightened times than your grandmother did. Perhaps one day we’ll be enlightened enough that nobody will give a crap what the Vatican says anymore.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/34 "2010-04-15T10:25:50Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> In a related story, seems Catholics are not amused by this [German cartoon](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/world/news/e3ia32c20e0500d8fa5ea4872e8a7bddf00?imw=Y).

Hey, I am (technically) Catholic and I _am_ amused! 😃

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/35 "2010-04-15T12:07:49Z")

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Amazingly fast by Vatican standards, I mean two Beatles are still alive. Don’t these sorts of things usually take the Vatican 200 or 300 years to get around to?

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**Author:** ![notsoheavyd3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/85e7bf/32.png) [@notsoheavyd3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notsoheavyd3)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/36 "2010-04-15T16:31:07Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Amazingly fast by Vatican standards, I mean two Beatles are still alive. Don’t these sorts of things usually take the Vatican 200 or 300 years to get around to?

True but I don’t think the Beatles ever called the Pope Mr. Stupid. (I guess he was really upset when his college drinking buddy called him that.)

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/37 "2010-04-15T16:48:13Z")

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But the vatican said they sent satanic messages. To now say they were a “precious jewel” means one of two things:

1. The vatican is OK with satanic things;
2. The vatican was wrong when it said they were satanic.

So which is it? And, if it’s #2, why should I believe anything they say? (Not that I was going to anyway.)

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/38 "2010-04-15T16:55:17Z")

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> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#):
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> But the vatican said they sent satanic messages. To now say they were a “precious jewel” means one of two things:
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> 1. The vatican is OK with satanic things;
> 2. The vatican was wrong when it said they were satanic.
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> So which is it? And, if it’s #2, why should I believe anything they say? (Not that I was going to anyway.)

1. **Don’t Call Me Shirley** didn’t read any details at all about this issue.
2. **Don’t Call Me Shirley** did read in depth, but doesn’t know the difference between “the Vatican,” and “a newspaper called _L’Osservatore Romano_.”

I’m stuck between choosing (3) or (4). Little help?

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**Author:** ![MissMossie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@MissMossie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissMossie)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/39 "2010-04-15T18:12:40Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> In a related story, seems Catholics are not amused by this [German cartoon](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/world/news/e3ia32c20e0500d8fa5ea4872e8a7bddf00?imw=Y).

I’m a practicing Catholic and I’m not amused, but I’m also not offended. I think it’s a fine commentary on the current state of the church. I just have trouble laughing at things that call to mind sexual abuse.

As far as the Beatles thing, can I apologize on behalf of my church for being completely random? I’m sorry. We have some issues. Some of us are trying to work them out. Hopefully it will catch on soon.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-the-vatican-has-absolved-the-beatles/535910/40 "2010-04-15T18:20:06Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Father MacKenzie  
> Wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave  
> No one was saved . . .

I always thought Father MacKenzie was supposed to be Anglican.

[QUOTE=foolsguinea]  
Oh, yeah, sure, wait until three of them are dead!  
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