# So, this is it (Syria) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 25, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-is-it-syria/667113 "2013-08-25T06:41:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 285
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-is-it-syria/667113/285 "2013-09-01T15:27:00Z")
> [@camille](#): > > To be fair, he did say he had no evidence for this particular instance. But why does the very idea that the CIA would influence the media strike you as “extremely preposterous”? Have you really never heard of [Operation Mockingbird](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird)? Are you serious? A decades old operation that was revealed to the public more than a generation ago? That’s your evidence? That’s a bit like saying that because Newcomer’s posts are largely incoherent Conspiracy Theorist nonsense, that it’s pretty reasonable to think that the CIA is drugging him just like in MK Ultra. > [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > For his sake I hope he’s never ridiculed people who claimed that Hollywood was run by a Jewish cabal or that the Mossad was behind 911. Not sure what his stance on a Jewish cabal controlling Hollywood, but he supports the belief that the Mossad was behind 9/11. > [@Is Robert Fisk all he's cracked up to be?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-robert-fisk-all-hes-cracked-up-to-be/569039/27): > > I understand that it is always easier to go along to get along so if that’s your thing fine. But if you can swallow that fiery explosion and burning kerosene destroys steel beams but terrorist passports survive in the debris then I want what you’re on. If you can swallow naming the terrorists only for several of them to show up in various places well and alive, again, great for you. If you can swallow that witnesses saw Mossad agents high-fiving each other on top of the van at the sight of burning Twin Towers and they go free, again, great, I admire your rectitude. But please don’t go around and preach because common sense is not your thing. > [@My wife came out to me as a Truther](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-came-out-to-me-as-a-truther/593502/75): > > As for implications, they can be of any form possible but one will never know unless investigation is conducted. If there was an investigation that was carried out the way investigation in, say, whereabouts of various 9/11 suspects was done, I’d probably drop the subject. But, my understanding is, the investigation got abruptly stopped by White House at the time (2001/2002) and… well, that’s it. > > I think it is perfectly valid and rational to point to questions unanswered because many people do not recall very well. It was briefly in the news and then never mentioned again. > [@My wife came out to me as a Truther](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-came-out-to-me-as-a-truther/593502/117): > > I wonder if some Palestinian Doper (we never hear from them, damn it) would be so galling to argue “acting like assholes” if those guys on the van were Palestinians (or anyone else for that matter). What’s also notable is that many others take that as quite a rational and self-sufficient characterization of the event. No issue there. > > What strikes me is the sheer offensive odour of banality espoused by this phrase “acting like assholes”. Yeah, that’s what agents of secret organizations do all the time. Mickey Mouse, obviously CIA. Donald Duck gives up his MI5 association every time he speaks. > > Hilarious. > > On another question, I have no beliefs. I have a fact that investigation halted. > > Silly evidence such as passports surviving in the heart of the explosion while temperature burned iron or issues with some of the hijackers’ names of the real, living people somewhere in the ME – that can only be believed because it is totally outside of the realm of possibilities to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. Which, of course, is why I was curious if he had any evidence, at all, to back up his new Conspiracy Theory that the CIA controls CNN. I suppose that raises the question of who controls the CIA, but I wonder if it has anything to do with whoever it is that, ahem, controls the US government and intelligence agencies to the point where they’ll have agents of the Mossad caught dead to rights as 9/11 conspirators, and then just let them go and bury the information. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-is-it-syria/667113)._