# So this woman with unbelievable cleavage was sitting next to me on the J train…

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 27, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460 "2011-07-27T03:19:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/21 "2011-07-27T15:05:47Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> But was she an _educated_ person?

do you know what schools she went to??!

good one acsenray.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/22 "2011-07-28T02:51:14Z")

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Next time, ask if her tracts of land are for sale, rent, or just display.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/23 "2011-07-28T03:11:12Z")

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I don’t feel like taking this to the pit, so I’ll just risk saying this here: God, prr, you’re such an ass.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/24 "2011-07-28T06:36:10Z")

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> [@Sarahfeena](#):
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> I don’t feel like taking this to the pit, so I’ll just risk saying this here: God, prr, you’re such an ass.

😕 He’s an ass because some idiot lets her brat run wild on the train and kicks him?

Or is he an ass because he mentioned that she had a distinctive feature?

Oh wait I see. He mentioned she “was not a slender woman.” SDMB fat brigade to the rescue!

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/25 "2011-07-28T06:47:58Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> 😕 He’s an ass because some idiot lets her brat run wild on the train and kicks him?
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> Or is he an ass because he mentioned that she had a distinctive feature?
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> Oh wait I see. He mentioned she “was not a slender woman.” SDMB fat brigade to the rescue!

Obviously I can’t speak for **Sarahfeena** , but I’d guess she’s speaking of his overall body of work and less to do with the specific things you’ve outlined.

Your “clever” assumption that she’s part of the fat brigade is completely incorrect, btw.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/26 "2011-07-28T12:39:00Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> My question is: does cleavage cause obnoxiousness, or does obnoxiousness cause cleavage? World-class, in both categories.

Surprised to have to say this, but:

Correlation does not equal causation ;p

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/27 "2011-07-28T13:01:55Z")

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> [@Sarahfeena](#):
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> I don’t feel like taking this to the pit, so I’ll just risk saying this here: God, prr, you’re such an ass.

Ordinarily I’d just tell you to dial it back, but since you knew what you were doing was against the rules and did it anyway, I’m giving you a warning for personal insults.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/28 "2011-07-28T13:40:51Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> 😕 He’s an ass because some idiot lets her brat run wild on the train and kicks him?
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> Or is he an ass because he mentioned that she had a distinctive feature?
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> Oh wait I see. He mentioned she “was not a slender woman.” SDMB fat brigade to the rescue!

Well, obviously I have to be careful what I say here, since I don’t want to rack up another warning. But…it’s obviously not acceptable for her to let he kid run around kicking people. So, that’s not it.

If you mean by “member of the fat brigade,” I’m actually not fat, and I didn’t see where he said that about her not being slender anyway, so that’s not it.

The reason I said it was because he has a tendency to say things that I find to be rather sexist, and this is just another lovely example.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/29 "2011-07-28T13:50:44Z")

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> [@Sarahfeena](#):
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> … sexist, and this is just another lovely example.

**Sarahfeena** ’s nailed me precisely. I would definitely give a pass to a father who was neglecting his two-year-old boy while talking on his cell phone with his huge balls hanging out of his thong. I admit, I was just picking on the woman because she was a woman, not because she was behaving obnoxiously.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/30 "2011-07-28T14:03:24Z")

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Both of you, take it to the Pit. Now.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/31 "2011-07-28T14:07:04Z")

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If you had said that every heterosexual woman on the train wanted to teabag him, I would have still thought you were being obnoxious.

See, I didn’t say you were picking on her because she was a woman, it was because you felt the need to discuss her breast size at length and equated her to a stripper. See, I don’t know if I have to explain this to you slowly, but breast size doesn’t have anything to do with obnoxiousness or rudeness. And…I know you were trying to be clever, but…fail.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/32 "2011-07-28T14:10:41Z")

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> [@Sarahfeena](#):
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> If you had said that every heterosexual woman on the train wanted to teabag him, I would have still thought you were being obnoxious.
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> See, I didn’t say you were picking on her because she was a woman, it was because you felt the need to discuss her breast size at length and equated her to a stripper. See, I don’t know if I have to explain this to you slowly, but breast size doesn’t have anything to do with obnoxiousness or rudeness. And…I know you were trying to be clever, but…fail.

Warning issued for ignoring moderator instructions.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/33 "2011-07-28T14:12:57Z")

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twickster, I was typing that while you posted your instruction, and I just was going to edit it out, but missed the edit window. I’d appreciate it if you would rescind the second warning.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/34 "2011-07-28T14:18:41Z")

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Missed another edit window. I’m of course, happy to drop the argument.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/35 "2011-07-28T14:39:15Z")

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I’ll rescind the second warning, but if you have anything further to say to **prr** , please say it in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/36 "2011-07-28T14:41:00Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/37 "2011-07-28T23:09:25Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> Stick your face in there and “B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B!”

I once shared a weekend with a woman at a nudist camp who had something overwhelmingly redunkulus like a 36 4D- literally almost twice the size of my head, each of them.

All weekend long, people would walk up (both male and female) and request to be allowed to ‘motorboat’… I didn’t know what it meant at first, and refused to do it myself.

She was a class act dingbat. She had 8 children, and was remarkably svelte of figure, thus making the oversized chest flabbergasting.

She’d be past the age of 20’s now, otherwise I would suggest that it was her!

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/38 "2011-07-29T19:00:14Z")

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Some people like low cut dresses. personally, i look down on them.

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**Author:** ![perfectparanoia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@perfectparanoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/perfectparanoia)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/39 "2011-07-29T20:38:18Z")

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See this is the problem with being a new mom. My mom instinct hasn’t yet figured out its bounds. I will tend to say whatever I would say to my own kid to the misbehaving child.

I would then amuse the child (just as I do my own while on public transit). I keep pipecleaners in my purse for this purpose (you’d be amazed how one pipecleaner can amuse a child forever).

Frankly, half the parents are too tuned out to notice that I chastised their child and the other half will glare and pay some attention to the kid. Either way: the kid stops misbehaving. Problem solved.

Aside: PRR, it never ceases to amaze me how enthralled men are by boobs.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-woman-with-unbelievable-cleavage-was-sitting-next-to-me-on-the-j-train/590460/40 "2011-07-29T21:03:56Z")

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The only reason that boobs exist is to enthrall men. Other mammals have teats for nursing, but only humans have full, rounded boobs, and it’s all about enthralling men.

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