# So Trump Tower is on fire. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 7, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003 "2018-04-07T22:45:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/1 "2018-04-07T22:45:49Z")
On the 50th floor, I think they said (on CBS news, just now.) Apparently it is getting worse. (I’m sure there will be any number of links that can be found in the hours and days to come.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/2 "2018-04-07T22:59:13Z")
And my post was already outdated at the time I made it. [Fire put out at around the time I was writing the post, one serious injury](http://abc7ny.com/1-in-serious-condition-after-fire-breaks-out-at-trump-tower/3313615/). ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/3 "2018-04-07T23:06:19Z")
Newscaster about the building in NYC: “The home of the president.” ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/4 "2018-04-07T23:12:14Z")
In his tweet about the fire D2S managed to work in what a “well built building” it is. I instantly assumed it is in fact poorly constructed. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/5 "2018-04-07T23:15:55Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > In his tweet about the fire D2S managed to work in what a “well built building” it is. I instantly assumed it is in fact poorly constructed. The source of the fire has been determined to be “pants.” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/6 "2018-04-07T23:20:58Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > The source of the fire has been determined to be “pants.” Well done! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/7 "2018-04-07T23:44:00Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > The source of the fire has been determined to be “pants.” I assumed there were some documents on the 50th floor that were about to be subpoenaed. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/8 "2018-04-07T23:45:19Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > In his tweet about the fire D2S managed to work in what a “well built building” it is. Is gold leaf flammable? ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/9 "2018-04-07T23:59:49Z")
I saw this about four times on Facebook before I realized it wasn’t a metaphor. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/10 "2018-04-08T00:42:28Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > And my post was already outdated at the time I made it. [Fire put out at around the time I was writing the post, one serious injury](http://abc7ny.com/1-in-serious-condition-after-fire-breaks-out-at-trump-tower/3313615/). Update: One killed. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/11 "2018-04-08T00:56:16Z")
Predictably, the Orange Fucking Moron is too incompetent and unoriginal to even pull off a Reichstag Fire. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/12 "2018-04-08T01:07:57Z")
I wouldn’t be surprised if the building isn’t up to code. Why waste money on an expensive sprinkler system when you can make a deal with building inspector? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/13 "2018-04-08T01:20:54Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > The source of the fire has been determined to be “pants.” I assumed it was a dumpster. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/14 "2018-04-08T01:37:19Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > The source of the fire has been determined to be “pants.” Must have been _Hot_ pants! ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/15 "2018-04-08T15:18:46Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > I wouldn’t be surprised if the building isn’t up to code. Why waste money on an expensive sprinkler system when you can make a deal with building inspector? I was just speculating above but I wasn’t too far off from reality: > **[Trump Said He Couldn't Afford High-Rise Sprinklers](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-tower-fire-no-sprinklers-lobbied-against-bill-876537)** > > Trump lobbied against proposed reforms after two fatal high-rise fires in the late 1990s. > [@](#): > > A fire in his 5th Avenue building Saturday, with no sprinklers present, left one person dead and multiple firefighters injured. > . > . > . > According to a 1999 New York Post report, Trump was the most prominent of a powerful real estate lobby opposed to reform, and complained he couldn’t afford to install sprinklers. At $4 per square foot, he argued that the sprinklers were too expensive to install in an entire building. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/16 "2018-04-08T15:26:12Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > I was just speculating above but I wasn’t too far off from reality: > > [Trump Tower Fire Death Update: Trump Lobbied Against Proposal to Make Sprinklers Mandatory](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-tower-fire-no-sprinklers-lobbied-against-bill-876537) [From Wiki.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower) > [@](#): > > In 2006, Forbes magazine valued the 300,000 square feet (28,000 m2) of office space at up to $318 million; the tower itself was valued at $288 million, since the Trump Organization had a $30 million mortgage on the property.[103] As of 2013, that mortgage had risen to $100 million.[104] The valuation of the building rose from $490 million in 2014 to $600 million in 2015 due to increased rent payments by anchor store Gucci. This revaluation made the tower the single most expensive property under Trump’s ownership. 1.2 million for sprinklers. Pocket change even if Trump was only worth 1 billion. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/17 "2018-04-08T15:28:28Z")
T\*he Roof, The Roof, The Roof is on Fire! We don’t need no water… \* ---
**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/18 "2018-04-09T04:42:03Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Update: One killed. A sad story… > **[Art Collector and Bon Vivant Dies in Trump Tower Home He Couldn’t Sell...](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/nyregion/trump-tower-fire-art-collector.html)** > > Todd Brassner lived alone amid a collection of 100 vintage electric guitars and artwork by Andy Warhol, Robert Indiana, Jack Kerouac and others. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/19 "2018-04-09T12:18:57Z")
> [@Dropo](#): > > A sad story… > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/nyregion/trump-tower-fire-art-collector.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/nyregion/trump-tower-fire-art-collector.html) It’s always sad to see people in a downward spiral, and Brassner appears to have been in decline for years before the fire. The article notes that “the apartment was so cluttered Mr. Brassner could barely move”; one wonders whether this caused or significantly contributed to the fire. I’m torn on the whole “he couldn’t sell his apartment because of Trump” elements of the article. On the one hand it seems like it was included as a side jab at The Donald; on the other, his inability to sell a $2.5m apartment despite bankruptcy is relevant to the article. I dunno. In any case, it’s a sad end to a sad life. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003/20 "2018-04-09T13:13:48Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > In his tweet about the fire D2S managed to work in what a “well built building” it is. I instantly assumed it is in fact poorly constructed. There are reportedly no sprinklers on the residential floors. Unclear if they were required by code when the building was built. Or if it was built well enough for the contractors to get paid. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-tower-is-on-fire/812003.md?page=2)