# So Trump won and some Clinton supporters seem to be having a hard time accepting that **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 10, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320 "2016-11-10T03:50:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Theodore\_Striker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Theodore\_Striker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theodore_Striker)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/61 "2016-11-11T15:58:13Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Fine. I’ll say it. It’s not ok when anyone does it. Hate crimes are a crime, regardless of who commits them. Beating up 11 year old children for a differing political view is heinous. Rioting is wasteful, destructive, horrendous. > > Just as the disenfranchised on the right were expected to riot and cause problems [del]when[/del] if they lost, it is no surprise when the equivalent group on the left does the same things. Fewer guns maybe, and more burning cars and looting. When large groups of people feel like they don’t have a voice, sometimes things get out of hand. This is particularly true when the last 6-12 months have been spent cranking up the masses on both sides, with the most toxic election cycle in decades, amped even higher by the wonder of social media. > > On the other hand, jumping up and down and pointing out that “your side does it too” accomplishes what, exactly? This. This. And this again. The same echo chamber arguments from both sides don’t solve, they just shift the group of people that don’t feel like they have a voice. Obama tapped that group in 2008, and Trump did it this year, and it happened against Hillary both times. But again, the focus of our discussions becomes “liberals” versus “conservatives”, and we end up in the same damn place. It’s the American politics version of _A Canticle for Leibowitz_ ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/62 "2016-11-11T16:28:25Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > It is almost funny. The violence from the left on this board more or less gets a pass. In another thread (the Bundy one IIRC), there was all sorts of crying and gnashing of teeth about how violent the right is in this country\*. I put together a list starting from 1970 of riots where people burned shit and broke things. The vast, vast majority of the riots were for left leaning causes. Second place belonged to sports related riots. > > Then a thread or two popped up about how the right would riot and kill everyone if Trump lost. > > Trump won and what happens? The oh so enlightened and nonviolent liberals start breaking shit and burning things yet again. > > I know that most liberals, like most conservatives, do not condone the violence. However watching many on the left ties themselves in knots justifying or dismissing the violence in their own ranks is entertaining. > > The downside is, of course, that the burning shit and breaking things hurts actual people. It’d be funny if real people weren’t getting hurt. > > Slee > > \*Both sides have violent loons. It just seems the the left tends to be a bit more collectivist about their violence. I posted this in the Pit: > [@Would Trump be allowed to take office if he wins the election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/192): > > President Obama served two terms in a country full of deplorable gun nuts, redneck hicks, right wing bigots, some who thought he was a Kenyan Muslim, and had no credible assassination attempts on him. > > I bet dollars to donuts that some left wing nut job takes a shot at Trump. He hasn’t even been sworn in yet and “Kill Trump” graffiti is popping up at the anti-Trump protests. > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Just as the disenfranchised on the right were expected to riot and cause problems [del]when[/del] if they lost, it is no surprise when the equivalent group on the left does the same things. Yeah, just like the deplorable gun nuts, redneck hicks, right wing bigots, some who thought he was a Kenyan Muslim did in '08 and '12 when Obama was elected? ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/63 "2016-11-11T16:40:12Z")
For all the left’s talk about being tolerant, open-minded, peaceful and willing to accept the results of the election (said when they were positive it would result in a Clinton victory), it sure is nice to see the liberal meltdown-- the protesting and the absolute histrionics-- going on right now. Irony is lost upon them. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/64 "2016-11-11T16:54:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > … Blackwell’s immediate goals for this administration are: … What’s the cite for this? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/65 "2016-11-11T16:56:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Oh, fuck-Is he back to tweeting again? To any and all of you that are saying this transition should be done in a dignified manner and that if we just stay calm and let the transition happen it won’t be so bad? > Your boy is blowing it big time. Agreed. Whoever took his Twitter account away should have held onto it for the next 4 years. Letting Trump tweet whatever strikes his fancy is a recipe for incivility and pettiness unworthy of the Presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/66 "2016-11-11T17:04:41Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > What’s the cite for this? Um…the link I provided? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/67 "2016-11-11T17:16:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You can’t protest something if you don’t accept that it happened. > > What they are saying is that they will never accept him personally. They will not treat him with the respect of the office. > > You wanted a culture war, voting for the guy promising to provide one? You got it. So you think if the protesters get increasing violent and destructive that they will survive a violent backlash from the “degenerates?” Who exactly is armed and been preparing for a clash? ---
**Author:** ![KAndre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@KAndre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KAndre)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/68 "2016-11-11T17:41:22Z")
What makes you think that the protesters can’t become just as armed? I don’t now why all the “degnerates” think they are the only ones who can get guns. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/69 "2016-11-11T18:23:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Um…the link I provided? Your cite doesn’t say that. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/70 "2016-11-11T18:27:41Z")
> [@KAndre](#): > > What makes you think that the protesters can’t become just as armed? I don’t now why all the “degnerates” think they are the only ones who can get guns. Because it’s taken us many years to build up our collections and practice with them to become proficient. But by all means, if you think it’ll help, go down to Wal-Mart and get yourself a $700 AR. ---
**Author:** ![Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einstein_was_a_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/71 "2016-11-11T18:47:53Z")
Crybabies who were never taught to respect the outcome of an election. Let the SJW butthurt flow, baby… ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/72 "2016-11-11T19:09:59Z")
I hope liberals see the irony of a crowd of people with “Love Trumps Hate” signs running amok, burning things, destroying property, and beating people up. ---
**Author:** ![Squallous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@Squallous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squallous)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/73 "2016-11-11T19:28:27Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > America did elect a rapist. Trump has been accused by at least 3 women, including a child. Liberal Logic 101 on display: “accusation” = “proof” By your logic Bill Clinton is also a rapist. And Hilary Clinton therefore a rape apologist at best, a proponent at worst. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/74 "2016-11-11T20:26:57Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Which side’s methods worked this time? Nominating a candidate that most folks hated? It didn’t work for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/75 "2016-11-11T20:35:16Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Scroll down on your first link and you’ll find this; You need to pay closer attention. If you scroll down on that link, what you’ll find is the very story that ultimately turned out to be fake. The WP just added the update at the top. Over the years there have been an enormous number of faked racist attack stories. I’m not sure if it might be more than the amount of real racist attack stories. So you need to be suspicious of all these reports when uncorroborated. (I’m curious about how the black church burning “vote Trump” one will turn out.) ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/76 "2016-11-11T21:09:18Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Which side’s methods worked this time? You mean Hillary’s method of calling those who disagree with her and supports Trump deplorable? That certainly did not work the way she wanted. Do you mean the media and their portrayal of Trump supporters as stupid, ignorant, racist and, in general, subhuman? How’d that work out? Not very well, now did it. Clinton was insulting to those whose votes she needed. Her supporters were insulting to those whose votes they needed (seriously, haven’t you read any threads on Trump supporters on this board?). I don’t like Trump. I really don’t. Yet the constant hypocritical moralizing that the loudest liberals have been doing for years is starting to make folks like Trump look attractive to many people. And I can understand that. You know why? Because if you do the things you are supposed to do, go to work, pay taxes, take care of your family, treat people fairly and are then told that the countries problems are your fault because you are too stupid to vote for the savior of the day (Clinton this time around), and are ignorant racists and it is all your fault, well after a while it gets old. And now, in a totally expected development, some liberals are burning shit, breaking things or throwing tantrums because those poor/stupid/violent/racists voted for Trump. Slee ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/77 "2016-11-11T21:28:20Z")
I think the Trump supporters reaction to demonstrations is hilarious. Pearl clutching, “oh good lord…protestors! In the streets!! How did this happen? They’re breaking things!! Won’t somebody think of the children??” Please. Most good things (civil rights, the end of the Vietnam War) of the last 60 years came about because people got fed up and took to the streets. Property crimes should be prosecuted, absolutely. I’ve got no problem with that. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/78 "2016-11-11T22:22:10Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I think the Trump supporters reaction to demonstrations is hilarious. Pearl clutching, “oh good lord…protestors! In the streets!! How did this happen? They’re breaking things!! Won’t somebody think of the children??” > > Please. > > Most good things (civil rights, the end of the Vietnam War) of the last 60 years came about because people got fed up and took to the streets. > > Property crimes should be prosecuted, absolutely. I’ve got no problem with that. Let me see if I understand. Trump supporters are hypocritical because they think rioting is wrong. Meanwhile, the Clinton supporters, many of whom predicted violence from the right if Trump lost, are now resorting to violence because Clinton lost and it is a fine thing to do? Is that it? Slee ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/79 "2016-11-11T22:57:09Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Let me see if I understand. Trump supporters are hypocritical because they think rioting is wrong. Meanwhile, the Clinton supporters, many of whom predicted violence from the right if Trump lost, are now resorting to violence because Clinton lost and it is a fine thing to do? > > Is that it? > > Slee No. try again. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320/80 "2016-11-11T23:08:20Z")
Not surprising, Trump supporters and Trump himself would have trouble accepting a Clinton win. Trump deserves credit for winning and for deviating from orthodoxy. Normally, I would appreciate a lack of convention but decorum, sensible policy, knowledge and respect are important to me. I hope Trump has the humility to get good help and listen to advice – most of his vague and shifting opinions are not policy. I do not have a problem with economic conservatism, and the people have spoken. After Brexit, one wonders if this is all it’s cracked up to be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-trump-won-and-some-clinton-supporters-seem-to-be-having-a-hard-time-accepting-that/771320.md?page=5)