# So, waddya all think of Windows 10?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 30, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014 "2014-09-30T21:34:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/41 "2014-10-01T15:18:29Z")

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I came in to say what bump said. Ignore the 90s OSes. That family died out with ME. NT was the “new technology” that finally killed the DOS-based versions of Windows. XP was NT version 5, Vista was 6, and that’s when they started with the Windows 7, Windows 8 nomenclature. Now of course they’re going to screw it all up for marketing purposes, but version numbers have always been about marketing.

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**Author:** ![Qwakkeddup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/90ced4/32.png) [@Qwakkeddup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qwakkeddup)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/42 "2014-10-01T15:21:13Z")

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I might hold out for version XXXVIII. 😃

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/43 "2014-10-01T21:25:59Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> I like a comment on another board, where a reader suggested they should actually call it **Windows X** , as a comparison to OS X

That would be too obvious. What they are doing now works. They are moving over to the same paradigm as OS X–smaller updates, likely free.

I for one am intrigued that they are pretty much getting rid of ModernUI on Desktops. I was not expecting that at all.

I also know that, back when it was still called Windows 9, it was going to be free for Windows 8 users. Some were speculating it might be free for Windows 7 users, too, to get them to move on and avoid the problems they had with Windows XP. Their entire plan seems to depend on people moving to Windows 10. And people are very, very skeptical this time around.

I just hope you can put live tiles on the Desktop. I want my Desktop weather gadget!

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/44 "2014-10-01T21:42:37Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> 3.11 (who had 3.0?)

I did. Actually, I still have - I’m not upgrading until they release another version of Windows that’s exactly the same.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/45 "2014-10-02T04:15:59Z")

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So, what do you guys think? Will Windows 42 be great or not?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/46 "2014-10-02T12:25:45Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> So, what do you guys think? Will Windows 42 be great or not?

Not if it’s in any way different.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/47 "2014-10-02T12:30:40Z")

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Windows 42 is gonna be the answer to life, the universe, and everything!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/48 "2014-10-02T13:21:43Z")

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The proposed Windows 10 is actually version 9.

It’s just that Microsoft, in keeping with their record for innovation and trying new approaches established with the ground-breaking Windows 8, has switched everything over to base 9 and forgotten to tell us.

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**Author:** ![Macca26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/13edae/32.png) [@Macca26](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Macca26)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/49 "2014-10-02T14:03:36Z")

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I heard a rumor that they had to skip 9 because too many legacy programs used by businesses were still running checks like, “If Windows version number starts with 9, run program in Windows 95 or 98 mode”. It’s not verified, but I can see harried programmers putting in something like that without thinking that such a conflict could occur 15 years down the line.

I liked the Metro UI just fine - but I run a tablet PC. A smaller version for people who primarily use mice would be the best of both worlds. Just as long as they keep that snappy boot-up time and let me keep using file trees properly if I want, I’ll be happy.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/50 "2014-10-02T14:20:48Z")

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I really expected this whole ‘skipping 9’ business to be Onion News.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/51 "2014-10-02T14:29:21Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> I really expected this whole ‘skipping 9’ business to be Onion News.

Yeah I happened to see a video on YouTube today about Windows 10, and I thought it was a parody. And after I started watching I still thought it was a parody until about 1/4 way through, the speaker was a bit awkward and had a constantly changing color background.

My main impression is “meh.” It starts on a desktop and the Start menu is back, but it has tiles. They won’t give up on the tiles will they? Otherwise it seemed nice enough.

The video in question: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NI5fjTfpQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NI5fjTfpQ)

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/52 "2014-10-02T14:51:20Z")

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They won’t give up on the tiles, because they are the main interface in their other consumer offerings - this implementation of them might actually work though, because:  
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[li]compatibility between platforms could be good (and may stimulate the developer community)[/li][li]In Win10, it looks like they will be a subsystem of the main OS (Win8 was a bit like two different, independent operating systems running at the same time on the same machine)[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/53 "2014-10-02T14:51:37Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> Yeah I happened to see a video on YouTube today about Windows 10, and I thought it was a parody. And after I started watching I still thought it was a parody until about 1/4 way through, the speaker was a bit awkward and had a constantly changing color background.
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> My main impression is “meh.” It starts on a desktop and the Start menu is back, but it has tiles. They won’t give up on the tiles will they? Otherwise it seemed nice enough.
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> The video in question: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NI5fjTfpQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NI5fjTfpQ)

The most disturbing thing about that video is the 40 year-old guy trying too hard to rock a 25 year-old hair style. It’d be completely laughable if it weren’t so embarrassing.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/54 "2014-10-02T15:47:48Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> I really expected this whole ‘skipping 9’ business to be Onion News.

They did scoop the “five blades” thing, but I guess this one got away from them.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/55 "2014-10-02T15:51:43Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> The most disturbing thing about that video is the 40 year-old guy trying too hard to rock a 25 year-old hair style. It’d be completely laughable if it weren’t so embarrassing.

Wow. Who does he think he is, Demetri Martin?

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**Author:** ![Gus\_Gusterson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@Gus\_Gusterson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gus_Gusterson)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/56 "2014-10-02T16:01:30Z")

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> [@Macca26](#):
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> I heard a rumor that they had to skip 9 because too many legacy programs used by businesses were still running checks like, “If Windows version number starts with 9, run program in Windows 95 or 98 mode”. It’s not verified, but I can see harried programmers putting in something like that without thinking that such a conflict could occur 15 years down the line.

The version numbers of Windows 95 and Windows 98 weren’t 95 and 98, respectively. They were both version 4 (95 was 4.0 and 98 was 4.10). There are plenty of software issues caused by programmers handling Windows version numbers incorrectly (so many, in fact, that Windows 8.1 lies about what version it is unless you take special steps to get the actual version number) but the one you described isn’t one of them.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/57 "2014-10-02T16:05:21Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> The most disturbing thing about that video is the 40 year-old guy trying too hard to rock a 25 year-old hair style. It’d be completely laughable if it weren’t so embarrassing.

Wow, that hairstyle was really distracting. All he needed was some guyliner and a couple of piercings to complete the look.

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**Author:** ![Gus\_Gusterson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@Gus\_Gusterson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gus_Gusterson)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/58 "2014-10-02T16:05:23Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> They are moving over to the same paradigm as OS X–smaller updates, likely free.

Microsoft has always provided service packs (like Windows 8.1) for free but they can’t provide new operating systems for free - selling operating systems is how they make their money. Apple can give away OS X because Apple makes their money selling hardware.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/59 "2014-10-02T16:51:33Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> They won’t give up on the tiles, because they are the main interface in their other consumer offerings - this implementation of them might actually work though, because:  
> [ul]  
> [li]compatibility between platforms could be good (and may stimulate the developer community)[/li][li]In Win10, it looks like they will be a subsystem of the main OS (Win8 was a bit like two different, independent operating systems running at the same time on the same machine)[/li][/ul]

I think I would rather see tiles as objects/widgets you can attach to the desktop. I just don’t want my whole desktop to be widgets, let me make a row of them down the top or side.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-waddya-all-think-of-windows-10/700014/60 "2014-10-02T17:43:04Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I think I would rather see tiles as objects/widgets you can attach to the desktop. I just don’t want my whole desktop to be widgets, let me make a row of them

Gee, it’s nice to hear what you would rather have…

But Microsoft doesn’t give a damn what you want…They’ve already decided what you will want. And when you will want it.  
And they are going to force you to take it – whether you want to or not.  
And then you’re going to bow down on your knees, kiss their boots and thank them.

Because, verily, Microsoft hast spoken; and thou shalt have no other gods.

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