# So wait a minute, certain posters have a issue with me being negative because of what I post in a

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**Created:** [July 31, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417 "2016-07-31T23:06:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/41 "2016-08-01T18:11:44Z")

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Sounds like you need to grow a thicker skin at your job. No workplace wants to be known for errors. That’s how clients get lost. Don’t take job-related criticisms so personally. Their objective is not to single you out, but to maintain a good, reliable reputation with their clients. That way, they can stay in business and keep you employed. Learn from the experience and resolve to do better.

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/42 "2016-08-01T18:26:59Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> “A technical mistake?” Does it open the agency up to financial or legal liability?
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> It doesn’t really matter, though. I think the recurring theme that I detect is that you seem to have zero read on other people. I’m referring back to you were all pissed up that people don’t say hi, or want to be social with you when they are on break, or when someone has a bit of breakdown due to financial stress, or are tired.(either at the end of the day or because they are working multiple jobs) - at this ppoint, I suspect what your supervisor said was “Hey, you made a mistake here. Don’t let it happen again, ok?” Maybe even with a smile, or a laugh.

I can read people just fine which is why I don’t make an attempt to socialize with certain people who has a unpleasant look about them. I am not referring to people who don’t have a reputation for being moody, it’s the moody people who you kind of get used to and just ignore them.

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/43 "2016-08-01T18:30:00Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Sounds like you need to grow a thicker skin at your job. No workplace wants to be known for errors. That’s how clients get lost. Don’t take job-related criticisms so personally. Their objective is not to single you out, but to maintain a good, reliable reputation with their clients. That way, they can stay in business and keep you employed. Learn from the experience and resolve to do better.

Well for starters I had a awful trainer so some of the mistakes I make is a result of that. But I can’t mention that anymore because I am closing in on 3 years at the job so it’s not like I still have the new title. So a lot of the mistakes I made was because I was never told the correct way on how to handle certain things. I remember when I was being trained she wanted to text more than give me the correct information I needed to do the job.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/44 "2016-08-01T18:36:39Z")

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I’ve only known you for the couple of minutes it took me to read this thread and from the moment I clicked on it all you’ve done is bitch, moan and whine.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/45 "2016-08-01T18:48:53Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> Well for starters I had a awful trainer so some of the mistakes I make is a result of that. But I can’t mention that anymore because I am closing in on 3 years at the job so it’s not like I still have the new title. So a lot of the mistakes I made was because I was never told the correct way on how to handle certain things. I remember when I was being trained she wanted to text more than give me the correct information I needed to do the job.

It’s not my fault, I’ve been doing the job wrong for years but its not myyyyy faaaaaaault?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/46 "2016-08-01T18:50:38Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’ve only known you for the couple of minutes it took me to read this thread and from the moment I clicked on it all you’ve done is bitch, moan and whine.

And complain about people being moody.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/47 "2016-08-01T18:53:48Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> I remember when I was being trained she wanted to text more than give me the correct information I needed to do the job.

And you didn’t think to mention this to anyone while you were new?

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/48 "2016-08-01T20:14:17Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’ve only known you for the couple of minutes it took me to read this thread and from the moment I clicked on it all you’ve done is bitch, moan and whine.

That is what ranting is the last time I checked.:smack:

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/49 "2016-08-01T20:15:32Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> It’s not my fault, I’ve been doing the job wrong for years but its not myyyyy faaaaaaault?

Certain aspects of the job not everything because if that was the case I would not have lasted 3 years.

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/50 "2016-08-01T20:17:06Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> And you didn’t think to mention this to anyone while you were new?

Well you really don’t start messing up until you actually start doing the job after probation so it was no way of me knowing what I didn’t know until I actually did the job.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/51 "2016-08-01T20:46:14Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> That is what ranting is the last time I checked.:smack:

Your hearing test results are in. That whooshing sound you frequently hear appears to be normal, for you.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/52 "2016-08-02T15:50:52Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> That is what ranting is the last time I checked.:smack:

Maybe in your brain, but here?

Almost every rant on this messageboard is because people care. They care about their workplace running efficiently, so they rant when people’s egos get in the way of that.

They care about the clerks at the local grocery store, so they rant about the old ladies berating them while rummaging in their cavernous purses for exact change and holding up the line.

They care about society in general, so they rant about the election.

I could go on (wish I had time to link to some of the great rants here, but I gotta run…), but I’m sure you see the theme. Practice caring about people, and your posts will have a different feel. Ironically, they’ll even have more of an edge.  
But that might take a while. That’s ok, we’ll wait. Lurk a while (I did, for a decade), read more than you post, listen more than you speak, get a feel for what this board is like. The reason I like this place is that these people are smart. Smarter than me (no, subjective case, “I”)(See, even me can learn).

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/53 "2016-08-02T16:51:03Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> Well for starters I had a awful trainer so some of the mistakes I make is a result of that. But I can’t mention that anymore because I am closing in on 3 years at the job so it’s not like I still have the new title. So a lot of the mistakes I made was because I was never told the correct way on how to handle certain things. I remember when I was being trained she wanted to text more than give me the correct information I needed to do the job.

So you’ve been on the job three years and you still don’t know any more than what you were trained? It helps to actually ask once in a while. Find documentation, learn on your own. Maybe when your supervisor sees you’re actually trying to improve yourself she won’t yell at you so much.

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/54 "2016-08-02T16:59:48Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> So you’ve been on the job three years and you still don’t know any more than what you were trained? It helps to actually ask once in a while. Find documentation, learn on your own. Maybe when your supervisor sees you’re actually trying to improve yourself she won’t yell at you so much.

What I am saying is I won’t know what info I don’t have until income across a situation. So the trainer didn’t fully prepare me which is why I get stuck in certain situations. The trainer who replaced her is a lot better and those new people are being trained properly.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/55 "2016-08-02T17:51:41Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> What I am saying is I won’t know what info I don’t have until income across a situation. So the trainer didn’t fully prepare me which is why I get stuck in certain situations. The trainer who replaced her is a lot better and those new people are being trained properly.

See? That’s the way you could have presented yourself as caring about your workplace.

“My former trainer seemed unwilling or inadequate in properly training me how to do the job, so I was unable to properly aid our clients. Now we have a new trainer who is much better at explaining the job to the employees, so the clients are getting better help than they were before.”

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/56 "2016-08-02T18:08:31Z")

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You guys are putting a lot of working into someone who doesn’t seem interested in learning.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/57 "2016-08-02T18:11:31Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> You guys are putting a lot of working into someone who doesn’t seem interested in learning.

Agreed. \*\*Digs \*\*had a beautiful post that was ignored.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/58 "2016-08-02T22:31:52Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [snip] … \*[dad joke] I mean of COURSE it’s not in a vacuum. Heat transfer in a vacuum can only take place when physical contact is present. [/dad joke]

Huh?

In a vacuum, there is nothing physical to be in contact with to transfer heat, it’s a vacuum. Yes, solids have a vapor pressure AND a vacuum violates the Third Law of Thermodynamics because without _any_ matter, temperature would have to be 0 K … perhaps you mean an intellectual vacuum …

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/59 "2016-08-03T04:16:24Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> Agreed. \*\*Digs \*\*had a beautiful post that was ignored.

Aw, shucks. Maybe if a dozen people tell me how great it was, **cg16** ’ll check it out.

And maybe even act on it…?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-a-minute-certain-posters-have-a-issue-with-me-being-negative-because-of-what-i-post-in-a/761417/60 "2016-08-03T06:09:17Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [Here ya go, **mhendo**.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19520151&postcount=792)
> 
> He gets a little heat after complaining that his coworkers who have second jobs come off to him as moody and tired when he encounters them.
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> It’s not in a vacuum, though\*. A look through his Pit posts tends to support the hypothesis that he’s got issues with empathy.
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> \*[dad joke] I mean of COURSE it’s not in a vacuum. Heat transfer in a vacuum can only take place when physical contact is present. [/dad joke]

> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Huh?
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> In a vacuum, there is nothing physical to be in contact with to transfer heat, it’s a vacuum.

That’s not true if the dust bag is full.

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