# So...wait...exactly was Seven banned/suspended for?

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**Created:** [July 31, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-exactly-was-seven-banned-suspended-for/504930 "2009-07-31T23:44:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-wait-exactly-was-seven-banned-suspended-for/504930/50 "2009-08-01T03:32:35Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> And none of it involves rules like "It’s ok to talk about the Snarkpit as long as you don’t start an OP with it.  
> Because hijacking is against the rules in ATMB (and apparently GD) while opening what some people consider new threads on aspects of existing topics _is_ legal.  
> Because every other thread involves changing definitions/reasons for why Seven was banned. If we can get a concrete answer “He was a jerk for doing A/B/C”, it then narrows the scope of the debate in all the others and prevents foolish answers like “He violated copyright laws” and “Well, even though though the rules state that it’s ok to talk about the snarkpit but not link to it, it’s also not ok to make the snarkpit the OP of a thread.” To paraphrase Liberal, let’s nail down our definitions before we debate.

I haven’t been participating much in the **Seven** ordeal, but if you’ll let me post as a poster or observer for a moment . . .

Considering the SnarkPit is a board running for the singular purpose\* of anonymously mocking members of the SDMB, can you see why it is not a welcome subject on the SDMB? Or, at least, can you concede that others may think so? While it’s not quite as nasty as it used to be back when it was on LiveJournal, it’s still not a pretty sight.

Let me presume that you answer yes to the above.

Some details before the next question. You probably know this all already, but here it is for the benefit of the readership. The Snarkpit used to be rather taboo on here. The informal rule that we wouldn’t draw attention / give them attention, got relaxed over time. For a long period, it was The Board That Must Not Be Named or somesuch. However, even then it was considered bad form to mention it without a suitable context. Linking to it was a direct no-no. **Marley** stated it explicitly in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481385&highlight=Snarkpit) thread:

> [@The rule about not mentioning the other board should be lifted.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rule-about-not-mentioning-the-other-board-should-be-lifted/461712/22):
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> You’ve only heard one answer in this thread: mention okay but stupid, link not okay AND stupid.

So, while it’s not a codified rule that we expect everyone to have learned by heart, we do kind of expect a member of nine years, with over four thousand posts, to have gotten the gist. In that light, making a thread in IMHO transparently sounding the roll call for the resident snarkpit posters to post in-jokes - well, it’s kind of a dick move. Making two threads after the snarkpit thread was quietly disappeared to disingeuously draw attention to it - well, that took it to “jerk-” or troll-levels as far as my understanding of the situation was.

Now, that’s on top of calling **Liberal** a [“sociopathic douche cunt”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11109455&postcount=32) (and subsequently making it glaringly obvious that he knew the rules for both language and personal attacks). Making a direct [personal attack](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10975308&postcount=16) on poster **Opal** as well as directly contravening the rules in the Regards, Shodan debacle [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11310420&postcount=62).

He got warned for all three of the above. That’s three Warnings in about five months. On top of that, his posting history since his post-“I think I’m done here” return back in November has been characterized by disingenuous complaining and gameplaying as well as his feud with **Liberal**.

Now, is this enough material to ban someone? Some of us thought so and so the decision was made after a sufficient amount of mods and admins had taken a look at it. After some time and discussion, the decision was reversed and downgraded to a suspension.

I wasn’t really surprised to see him banned, to be honest. I don’t think a lot of posters would have much leash left after three warnings.

\*This is, to the extent of my knowledge, true. I read it perhaps once every few months for a laugh or two.

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