Well, you cannot call up a repo-man for lost wages, so employeers are indeed availing themselves, successfully I might add, to the court-system.
I don’t want to take away consumer choice, and yes, I do think that Wal-Mart should be available to those that choose to shop there. But there are things about the chain that must change.
How about if they complain as an impetus to change? If enough of the employees that get treated this way talk amongst themselves and to others, and find out more of what their rights are, they can then begin to fight it and force changes.
So, if employees are not being paid overtime, and they just sucked it up or left, how would it ever get changed? Who would bring it to the attention of the authorities?
But…if the employees are disgruntled and bitching about no overtime or holiday pay, and those on the listening end are replying “say WHAT??? Ummmm guess you don’t know this, but thath’s illegal, they can’t lock you in, or threaten you, or not pay you for working, or not pay overtime”.
Well, DUH that’s what the complaining is FOR. It’s a GOOD thing that folks are bitching about such a ridiculous misuse of the work force. The more they get bitched at and about, the fewer folks will be going there to work in the first place.
So instead, after hearing the complaints from friends or acquaintances who have bitched about their less than ethical or legal treatment of employees, more people WILL work at your list of “other” acceptable minimum wage retail stores.
Sorry, I’m not disputing that you know how your local agencies respond, but this just floors me. They wouldn’t take action for that sort of abuse? Hitting a toddler on the mouth? Wow. Ours show up PDQ if you just see a kid under a certain age left alone in a vehicle, they’d be DAMN sure to take action on a mouth slapping harpy.
I don’t get it, the whole first half of that article gives this big build up about Wal-Mart killing Vlasic because of what we’ve been discussing, and then when they talk about Vlasic needing to file for bankruptcy they throw in this
Am I missing something? If not that, than why did they file? And why have we believed all this time that Wal-Mart was the cause?
First, I would expect better name-calling from you.
The 6 cites I was calling for was for employees being locked into stores overnight. Sorry for the confusion. Do they force unpaid overtime? Obviously it happens. But I have little sympathy for anyone that tolerates it.
Abuse to you and abuse to me are different than abuse to 40,000,000 different people. Our police have enough on their plates as it is to not be burdened by every do-gooder calling in reports of a mother smacking their child. If I said she “hit” her child, she’d say she barely touched him.
It’s even more complicated when we’re talking about crowded stores with Jane Doe suspects that you don’t know and would be forced to follow arounf the store for an hour while the police got their acts together.
I guess that’s one of the drawbacks to living in a huge metro area, in a humungous beaurocracy.
Talk about blaming the victim! Um have those of you forgotten about the culprit? Those actually breaking the law here?
How does the fact that they’ve (walmart) found uneducated desparate people to bilk, in any way mitigate their responsibilities here, or in any way make them less evil?
And again, as to the “anyone who tolerates it” thing…THAT is what the complaining is useful for, that in communicating to others, (we hope others that can help and get to the bottom of it), is for.
And lastly, as many other dopers have pointed out to you, we understand that low prices are attractive. But according to the cites other posters have provided, WM doesn’t really do that either. There were several cites early on that showed at least three other places cheaper than walmart for the same product AND brand name.
Same product/super low price…well big WHOOP De Doo if the product is not the same brand, but some piece O crap knock off. One does get what one pays for.
Yes, that’s true, a he said/she said incident, unless an agency person actually saw it happen.
As to the “not my problem”? I disagree, but the reasons call for their own thread. (not pitting you, just the circumstances regarding that sorta thought process).
The median annual income for 1 household families is about 20k a year in most states, which is what someone earning $9.98 an hour who works 40 hours a week would earn. So their wages definately are not bad at $9.98. Problem is $9.98 is alot higher than they actually pay, they pay around $6.50-9 from what I can tell. Maybe they included managers who make 50k a year in with the stockboys who make $6.50 when they averaged the wages out.
Wal-Mart workers can buy individual coverage for as low as $15.25 every two weeks and family coverage for $66.25, Fogleman said. But those options have a deductible of $1,000, meaning that care is paid for by the employee until that ceiling is reached. Then Wal-Mart covers 80 percent of further costs. Wal-Mart says its average spending on medical benefits per employee is $3,100 per year. That’s less than the industry average — about $4,400 for large retailers — as calculated by Mercer Human Resource Consulting.
That is still $3100 a year more than alot of employers pay for healthcare benefits. They also have a 401k plan that I do not know the details of.
Overall if you are making $10/hr, getting $3100 a year in medical benefits then you really are not a victim by any means. I would gladly shop at walmart if their average employee got $10/hr and 3k a year in medical benefits, but that is not the case.
I’d like to apologize now for any time in which I may have implied that Duffer doesn’t comport himself with grace and aplomb. He’s a man of honor who never stoops to insults or childishness, or unnecessary political potshots.