# So, what are Haley and DeSantis running for? '28? Veep? Trump incarceration? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 17, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243 "2024-01-17T22:46:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/1 "2024-01-17T22:46:38Z")
I think I’m supposed to know this, but damned if I can remember hearing it. What goal do Haley and DeSantis have? Do they think Trump will pick one of them as running mate? Do they think he’ll disappear somehow before the Convention? Do they think they’re positioning themselves for the 2028 election? (Bonus question, I guess: how confident are they that an election will even happen in '28?) Note that Trump has said he already knows who his running mate will be, but that he has said a lot of things. Thanks, and sorry if I’m failing to keep up! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/2 "2024-01-17T23:06:55Z")
I suggest they’re counting on Jail for Trump. Or at least some sorta he’s not eligible for another term. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/3 "2024-01-17T23:14:03Z")
They got into the race because there was a moment after the midterm elections, when Trump-backed Republicans underperformed, when Trump looked vulnerable. The moment proved fleeting. Why are they still in the race? Ego, mostly. They’re both enormously ambitious politicians who are used to having electoral success. I’m sure it’s tempting to cling to a thread of hope that things could still break their way rather than have to admit to themselves and everyone who supported them that it was a fool’s errand from the start. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/4 "2024-01-17T23:17:42Z")
They want to be president, but they’re afraid to criticise the frontrunner. God it must be painful to be a Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/5 "2024-01-18T01:14:20Z")
DeSantis will run for Senate in '26. He’s just gonna keep shitting culture war stuff all over the airwaves till then. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/6 "2024-01-18T01:51:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > DeSantis will run for Senate in '26. That’ll be awkward, as Florida doesn’t have a Senate seat up for election in '26. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/7 "2024-01-18T01:54:11Z")
Ah, you’re right. I thought Rick Scott’s seat was up in '26. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/8 "2024-01-18T01:55:27Z")
Who knows, a victorious Trump could always appoint Marco Rubio to the Supreme Court and force a special election in 2026. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/9 "2024-01-18T02:06:43Z")
Why not Trump/Rubio? He’s another spineless jellyfish Trump can push around, and it will maybe pick up some points for having a Cuban running mate. Not that Trump really cares, but you know. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/10 "2024-01-18T02:11:54Z")
Two Floridians on the ticket creates electoral college problems — a state can’t give its votes to both a President and VP from that state. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/11 "2024-01-18T02:42:08Z")
Re the thread question, I remember William Weld, the former Massachusetts governor who ran for president at least once, and once was a Libertarian Party running mate, saying that he liked campaigning. I’d hate it, but some people surely would like meeting lots of new people and all the attention. So that could be some of it. Beyond that, it is normal that most future presidents have to run for the nomination one or two times, and fail, before getting on a ticket. I think this is more true for the GOP, but could be wrong and I haven’t worked out the statistics. Haley and DeSantis must know this. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/12 "2024-01-18T03:17:47Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I suggest they’re counting on Jail for Trump. Yeah. I don’t think either are stupid as they pretend to be and know that fucker is gonna go down. They are just too cowardly to say it in public. They are running for First Alternate. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/13 "2024-01-18T03:31:29Z")
> [@Napier](#): > > Do they think they’re positioning themselves for the 2028 election? (Bonus question, I guess: how confident are they that an election will even happen in '28?) I expect so. My sense is that they expect him to be a loser and they each want to be the post Trump face after that. So yes they expect an election. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/14 "2024-01-18T03:34:26Z")
Desantis was running for President and Haley was running for VP or 2028. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/15 "2024-01-18T04:04:02Z")
I think those of you who say that they are running to be VP, or for later positioning, are underestimating the massive narcissism and self-enclosed bubble that defines their entire lives. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/16 "2024-01-18T04:05:37Z")
The vast majority of people running for president any given year aren’t actually trying to be president. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/17 "2024-01-18T04:39:48Z")
Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/18 "2024-01-18T04:50:44Z")
> [@Napier](#): > > Do they think they’re positioning themselves for the 2028 election? I suspect. They’re figuring Trump will lose his third general election and they’ll be positioned to say “See? You should have picked me.” in 2028 when Biden retires. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/19 "2024-01-18T11:58:59Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I suggest they’re counting on Jail for Trump. Or at least some sorta he’s not eligible for another term. Jail or the triumph of cholesterol in a sad abused body. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243/20 "2024-01-18T12:35:15Z")
Trump’s considering Elise Stefanik as VP, so their efforts may be in vain. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-are-haley-and-desantis-running-for-28-veep-trump-incarceration/996243.md?page=2)