# So what did happen to the clothes? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 30, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264 "2009-03-30T06:09:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/21 "2009-03-30T20:47:07Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > So, she put a nominal Democrat in office. Oh darn. The shockingness shocks me. She’s a pragmatist, but I never for a minute called her unpartisan. That said, while I am not Alaskan, her record on policy is quite clear, and greatly in her favor. The fact that you don’t like her policy doesn’t mean she’s a monster. > > That’s simply untrue. On day 1, she was a little unprepared (I would say, shocked, because apparently it was pretty last-minute). The press was a little stunned, too, and not hostile. > > That rapidly changed. Bt the time the week was out, they were digging and digging and digging, and frankly just plain made up stories whole cloth to try and smear her. And it was a smear job of legendary proportions. Every starry-eyed hack was trying to dig up real dirt, and they had shockingly large news teams literally taking her garbage (at least metaphorically, and according to rumor, literally). She did flunk the Couric interview, but she also got much better in every subsequent appearance, and actually dealt with hard issues to the extent anyone did in that campaign.\* > > And, they failed. Everyone last story fell apart. Aside from having bad taste (a lot of it) I can see no particular flaw. I am not shocked she’s a politician, or that she’s acts like one. > > \*Although I would probably vote for her over the competition, I recognize it was small competition. Obama, McCain, Biden… let’s jsut say I’d prefer it if all three were far, far away from the Oval Office. Oddly, I’d vote for a Hillary Clinton/Sarah Palin The cooling breeze from your wild swings at the ball are refreshing. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/22 "2009-03-30T21:14:16Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > You’ll have to define “pretty well”, “sky”, “heads”, and particularly “anything” more clearly, methinks. I mean the 8 years of Republican administration have gone swimmingly. Don’t you think so? ---
**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/23 "2009-03-30T21:30:19Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Of course, while she was unprepared for the limelight, I also suspect she was the best of any Presidential or Veep candidate presented last . She hadn’t experienced national scrutiny before, or an immediately hostile press, and both mathematical analysis and opinion watching suggest she was a huge gain to a McCain’s limp campaign. You realize that **ChefGuy** ’s opinions probably have nothing to do with the presidential race, right? Check his location. ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/24 "2009-03-30T22:11:12Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > That’s simply untrue. On day 1, she was a little unprepared (I would say, shocked, because apparently it was pretty last-minute). The press was a little stunned, too, and not hostile. > > That rapidly changed. Bt the time the week was out, they were digging and digging and digging, and frankly just plain made up stories whole cloth to try and smear her. And it was a smear job of legendary proportions. Every starry-eyed hack was trying to dig up real dirt, and they had shockingly large news teams literally taking her garbage (at least metaphorically, and according to rumor, literally). She did flunk the Couric interview, but she also got much better in every subsequent appearance, and actually dealt with hard issues to the extent anyone did in that campaign.\* Announced by McCain on Aug 29, 2008. Sat w/ Gibson on Sep 11, then Couric on Sep 24. At the height of the campaign … that counts as hiding. \* My Pet Goat\* leadership. It was both pathetic and hilarious to witness. As is your continued defense of her. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/25 "2009-03-30T23:36:08Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > So, she put a nominal Democrat in office. Oh darn. The shockingness shocks me. She’s a pragmatist, but I never for a minute called her unpartisan. That said, while I am not Alaskan, her record on policy is quite clear, and greatly in her favor. The fact that you don’t like her policy doesn’t mean she’s a monster. > > That’s simply untrue. On day 1, she was a little unprepared (I would say, shocked, because apparently it was pretty last-minute). The press was a little stunned, too, and not hostile. > > That rapidly changed. Bt the time the week was out, they were digging and digging and digging, and frankly just plain made up stories whole cloth to try and smear her. And it was a smear job of legendary proportions. Every starry-eyed hack was trying to dig up real dirt, and they had shockingly large news teams literally taking her garbage (at least metaphorically, and according to rumor, literally). She did flunk the Couric interview, but she also got much better in every subsequent appearance, and actually dealt with hard issues to the extent anyone did in that campaign.\* > > And, they failed. Everyone last story fell apart. Aside from having bad taste (a lot of it) I can see no particular flaw. I am not shocked she’s a politician, or that she’s acts like one. > > \*Although I would probably vote for her over the competition, I recognize it was small competition. Obama, McCain, Biden… let’s jsut say I’d prefer it if all three were far, far away from the Oval Office. Oddly, I’d vote for a Hillary Clinton/Sarah Palin I can agree with you that the press was kinda digging around trying to find out who she was.. We all wanted to know who this ‘wild card’ was. She, and/or the McCain-Palin team, compounded the problem by keeping her isolated from the press for what, 3 plus weeks? You may recall that there was a pretty important election coming up in only a few weeks and the people \*\*really, really[b/] wanted to decide for whom they were going to vote. Keeping her isolated made the whole country anxious. We wanted, needed, to know who she was. When she finally made her major debut, even you admit she flunked. That’s when she got “smeared” and she has noone but herself to blame for that- not McCain, not the press, not Couric, and not me. She was uninformed and unprepared ala “I’ll get back to ya on that!” Sure, she did a little better is subsequent interviews, but not well enough. And not ‘every last story fell apart’. She was indeed an abstinance-only kinda gal with a knocked-up teenage daughter. She was indeed found guilty of abuse of power. She showed she was not a ‘regular soccer mom’ when she went hog-wild misusing campaign funds and she was only really good at implying things like “palling around with terrorists” and divining who was a “real” American. And they said Hilary was divisive. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/26 "2009-03-31T00:24:36Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It gets better. This morning’s paper reveals that the person she has selected to fill the vacant seat was, up until two weeks ago…wait for it…a Republican! Well, isn’t that just special? In a state riddled with ethics problems, Sarah engineers what I’m sure she thought was a fool-proof scheme to plant an opportunistic hack in the Senate. The backlash should be interesting to watch. > > No, I’m not calm and rational about this potential threat to our country. She’s a snake-oil salesman with a particularly virulent brand of poison. Palin anywhere near the presidency is not an acceptable scenario. She shoots from the hip without putting any thought into the consequences of her actions, acts on impulse, and has no regard for intellectual discourse. > > I disagree with your assessment of an “immediately hostile press.” They afforded her every courtesy and opportunity to express herself rationally and intelligently. She failed miserably, then ducked all other attempts to have her clarify her stand on issues, or even to answer the simplest of questions. Does she have to appoint a Dem? If she were the governor of Georgia she wouldn’t. My first thought was, “Consider yourself lucky - make that damn lucky - that the Dems are keeping the seat in the Senate.” When Coverdale (R) died in office several years back, Roy Barnes appointed a Democrat to take his place. However, things may be different in Alaska. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/27 "2009-03-31T00:32:14Z")
Is there any news on the actual question? Or is ‘in garbage bags at the RNC headquarters’ still the best known answer? ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/28 "2009-03-31T00:37:04Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Does she have to appoint a Dem? If she were the governor of Georgia she wouldn’t. My first thought was, “Consider yourself lucky - make that damn lucky - that the Dems are keeping the seat in the Senate.” When Coverdale (R) died in office several years back, Roy Barnes appointed a Democrat to take his place. > > However, things may be different in Alaska. Looks like she has to appoint a Dem by law (which is a very good law, btw.) ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/29 "2009-03-31T01:02:15Z")
Wait, what Alaska senator is retiring? I haven’t heard this at all. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/30 "2009-03-31T01:03:21Z")
I care about this because promises were made, and we shouldn’t let it slide just because “she lost”. There is quite obviously still support for her, which is fine, if you are informed and want to support her I couldn’t give two craps - but nobody should be allowed to get away with just ignoring things. And is there any better answer than “in trash bags”? And on appointing a “plant” - it just goes further towards her integrity as a person. Again not that I really care, I am not in Alaska, nor even American. People playing fast and loose with the truth and not getting called on it because nobody has the attention span to follow up just offends the hell out of me. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/31 "2009-03-31T01:08:07Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > Wait, what Alaska senator is retiring? I haven’t heard this at all. State Senate. The appointee didn’t change parties until after the incumbent resigned, though apparently he was a registered Democrat in the past. He still has to be approved by the Democrats in the State Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264/32 "2009-03-31T03:08:21Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > _ **Shhh!!!** _ Please, everyone… stay back… I’ve heard legends of these creatures’ existence, but to actually encounter one in nature? I don’t want to spook him… Notice the beautiful plumage… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-did-happen-to-the-clothes/491264.md?page=1)