# so what do you think about Al-Jazeera international?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 7, 2006, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209 "2006-12-07T13:17:29Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/21 "2006-12-08T12:17:31Z")

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He does indeed. As do many ex BBC techies and reporters.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/22 "2006-12-08T12:20:07Z")

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[QUOTE=RikWriter]  
The videos they show are made as propoganda for the terrorists usually BY the terrorists themselves, not by journalists.  
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Just out of curiosity and not to defend, but do they show the videos in the sense of “So-and-so group released new video, it talks about this and this _snippets_” or do they actually show the full video?

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/23 "2006-12-08T12:41:59Z")

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I never watch TV.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/24 "2006-12-08T14:28:18Z")

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> It haves many similarities with BBC world if you ask me

Not surprising – as I understand it, al Jazeera was started up by a group of ex-BBC people.

I’d be interested in looking at their channel. I look at their English-language website now anyway.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/25 "2006-12-08T16:36:08Z")

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[QUOTE=lieu]  
From what I understand (recent news article) it’s pretty hard to get in the US since many consider it “The Terrorist Channel”. :rolleyes: Frankly, I’d tune in pretty often _if_ I could get it. I think it’s important to see some of the things our western media won’t show and, similarly, I’d like to see what kind of propoganda crap many middle eastern viewers are being fed as well.

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I’m willing to bet $1000 that this blocking is the work of the strong jewish group in US media. They want to block americans from seing it. They want to hold on to the view that shows angry muslims burning the US flag on a daily basis.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/26 "2006-12-08T19:19:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Wildfire\*\*MM]  
I’m willing to bet $1000 that this blocking is the work of the strong jewish group in US media. They want to block americans from seing it. They want to hold on to the view that shows angry muslims burning the US flag on a daily basis.  
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Thanks Borat, now I know why you opened the thread.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/27 "2006-12-08T19:26:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Wildfire\*\*MM]  
I’m willing to bet $1000 that this blocking is the work of the strong jewish group in US media. They want to block americans from seing it. They want to hold on to the view that shows angry muslims burning the US flag on a daily basis.  
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If the Jews exercise so much control over America, why does Palestine in any form still exist? Why does America (you know, the really BIG Jew-controlled nuclear power) allow anyone to constantly threaten the existence of the only Jewish state in the world?

[From George Orwell](http://netcharles.com/orwell/essays/asiplease1944-05.htm):

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> In just the same way, very few Communists, in my experience, will believe that the Trotskyists are not in the pay of Hitler. **I have sometimes tried the experiment of pointing out that if the Trotskyists were in the pay of Hitler, or of anybody, they would occasionally have some money.** But it is no use, it doesn’t register. So also with the belief in the machinations of the Jews, or the belief, widespread among Indian nationalists, that all Englishmen, of whatever political colour, are in secret conspiracy with one another. The belief in the Freemasons as a revolutionary organization is the strangest of all. In this country it would be just as reasonable to believe such a thing of the Buffaloes. Less than a generation ago, if not now, there were Catholic nuns who believed that at Masonic gatherings the Devil appeared in person, wearing full evening dress with a hole in the trousers for his tail to come through. In one form or another this kind of thing seems to attack nearly everybody, apparently answering to some obscure psychological need of our time.

Emphasis mine.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/28 "2006-12-08T19:30:17Z")

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[QUOTE=RikWriter]  
The videos they show are made as propoganda for the terrorists usually BY the terrorists themselves, not by journalists.  
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So? If the Symbionese Liberation Army had filmed their own robberies back in the '70s and released prints to the TV stations, that would not have made SLA sympathizers, still less “terrorists,” of any TV stations that chose to run them. That would have been responsible, thorough journalism, no more.

Is there any cable (not satellite) provider in the U.S. that **does** carry al-Jazeera International?

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/29 "2006-12-08T20:03:53Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Is there any cable (not satellite) provider in the U.S. that **does** carry al-Jazeera International?  
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Hell, a lot of cable companies won’t even carry the NFL Network. Can you imagine them carrying Al-Jazeera International on anything but the super-top-everything package?

I don’t get Al-Jazeera on my Dish Network plan and I don’t think they’ve got a plan out that does have it.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/30 "2006-12-08T20:14:51Z")

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My satellite provider has picked it up as part of its basic package, so I’ll check it out. From what little I’ve seen, it looks interesting.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/31 "2006-12-08T20:45:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Alessan]  
My satellite provider has picked it up as part of its basic package, so I’ll check it out. From what little I’ve seen, it looks interesting.  
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Well, yeah, but you’re in Israel. You’re not in America, where Jews control the media.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/32 "2006-12-08T21:01:54Z")

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Jews probably do have some control over the media in Israel, let’s face it 😃

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/33 "2006-12-08T21:05:14Z")

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…um, which I guess was your point :smack:

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/34 "2006-12-08T21:20:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Alessan]  
My satellite provider has picked it up as part of its basic package,  
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What kind of satellite format do you have there, Alessan?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/35 "2006-12-09T10:31:57Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
What kind of satellite format do you have there, Alessan?  
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I don’t know - what are the options? I know it’s all digital.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/36 "2006-12-09T15:20:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Alessan]  
I don’t know - what are the options? I know it’s all digital.  
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Do any of these names look [familiair?](http://www.lyngsat.com/europe.html) ?

There is CBand, digital or analog with 8’-10’ dishes, digital and analog, single channels and packages. Dish usually moves.

DVB, various size dishes from 18" single channels here.

DSS, small dishes, programming in packages, like DishNetwork and Direct TV in the USA.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/37 "2006-12-10T07:44:48Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]

DSS, small dishes, programming in packages, like DishNetwork and Direct TV in the USA.  
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Based on their [Wikipedia entry](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_%28Israel%29), I think it’s this one.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/38 "2006-12-10T11:44:40Z")

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**Wildfire** MM\*\*: Your comment that Jews control the U.S. media is right up there with blacks having natural rhythm, Japanese being sneaky, and Catholics being cannibals. Part 1: it’s nonsense. Part 2: It’s stereotyping, if not “hate speech” which is prohibited on our Message Boards. Even if it’s not “hate speech” per se, such a discussion belongs in Great Debates forum, not here.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/39 "2006-12-10T12:14:38Z")

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Actually, as I think about it, this thread is about a station purporting to be “news,” right? So, I don’t think it fits the “arts and entertainment” criteria for Cafe Society forum anyhow. Hence, I’m moving it to Great Debates.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-do-you-think-about-al-jazeera-international/383209/40 "2006-12-10T12:17:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Wildfire\*\*MM]  
I’m willing to bet $1000 that this blocking is the work of the strong jewish group in US media. They want to block americans from seing it. They want to hold on to the view that shows angry muslims burning the US flag on a daily basis.  
[/QUOTE]

Shit, who leaked the memo?

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