# So what is the "final solution"? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 31, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095 "2010-08-31T04:11:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/61 "2010-08-31T15:51:18Z")
OP, do you also think we ought to give the Americas back to the Native Americans, Australia back to the Aborigines, and New Zealand back to the Maori? Do you think white and Asian South Africans should leave? Do you think the US should give California and part of the Southwest back to Mexico? If not, why are those different from Israel? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/62 "2010-08-31T15:52:13Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > …I find myself wondering if they’re a parody made up by a lefty. **The Facts** is the first lefty on this board who I’ve had the mirror suspicion about. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/63 "2010-08-31T15:52:26Z")
How did I miss all this Nazi shit last night? I should stop posting while tired. The Facts, you are an ignorant Nazi piece of shit. I hope you get shipped off to Antarctica where all those rednecks will beat you for beingg too subtle. Remember kids: subtle racism is just as bad as normal racism and twice as dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/64 "2010-08-31T16:20:59Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > Isreal was created with good intentions: to give the Jewish people a homeland, so that the holocaust wouldn’t happen again. But the problem was they put that homeland on a place someone else was already living in, and there is been nothing but war ever since. It’s obvious now taht there will never be peace in the middle east so long as Isreal is there. What else can be done? > > I thought the soviets had a better idea: they created a Jewish homeland in Siberia, where nobody was living. But all the Jews left there and went to Isreal instead. Wouldn’t it be better for everyone if they just went back? Couldn’t the west offer them incentives to go, like foreign aid? Hell, if the USA just stopped sending them weapons, they’d have to go. > > Hitler’s “final solution” was wrong, but it was a real problem: what do you do with an ethnic group that does not fit in but does not have a homeland? I don’t think that the Siberia thing would work. No one wants to live there. But what about America? There’s plenty of Jews there already, and they are really running the country anyway and no one’s complaining. Instead of sending billions of dollars over to Isreal every year, we could give them American citizenship and set them up in a home in middle America where it is really quite underpopulated. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/65 "2010-08-31T16:36:18Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > I don’t think that the Siberia thing would work. No one wants to live there. But what about America? There’s plenty of Jews there already, and they are really running the country anyway and no one’s complaining. Instead of sending billions of dollars over to Isreal every year, we could give them American citizenship and set them up in a home in middle America where it is really quite underpopulated. 1. Jews don’t control America. 2. No one wants to live in middle America. 3. Jews love Israel because it’s our homeland since pretty much prehistory. We’re not moving out. 4. IsrAEl, not IsrEAl. Yeesh! ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/66 "2010-08-31T16:41:47Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > 1. Jews don’t control America. > 2. No one wants to live in middle America. > 3. Jews love Israel because it’s our homeland since pretty much prehistory. We’re not moving out. > 4. IsrAEl, not IsrEAl. Yeesh! I’m pretty sure that was a joke. Just saying… ---
**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/67 "2010-08-31T16:43:20Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > Isreal was created with good intentions: to give the Jewish people a homeland, so that the holocaust wouldn’t happen again. But the problem was they put that homeland on a place someone else was already living in, and there is been nothing but war ever since. It’s obvious now taht there will never be peace in the middle east so long as Isreal is there. What else can be done? > > I thought the soviets had a better idea: they created a Jewish homeland in Siberia, where nobody was living. But all the Jews left there and went to Isreal instead. Wouldn’t it be better for everyone if they just went back? Couldn’t the west offer them incentives to go, like foreign aid? Hell, if the USA just stopped sending them weapons, they’d have to go. > > Hitler’s “final solution” was wrong, but it was a real problem: what do you do with an ethnic group that does not fit in but does not have a homeland? Aren’t you the dude who wanted to kill all the religious people? Just do that first. Problem solved! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/68 "2010-08-31T16:45:14Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > I’m pretty sure that was a joke. Just saying… Yeah, but the whole “Jews rule the world ZOMG” thing really shouldn’t be joked about, because later we’ll have random asshole trolls saying “Well, **The Flying Dutchman** said jews rule the world and he’s a respected member of the community so they must rule the world now let’s kill jews” ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/69 "2010-08-31T16:47:22Z")
At the risk of taking the OP seriously: If the problem is that two groups of people are trying to claim the same chunk of real estate, is there any reason that we couldn’t solve the problem by offering the Palestinians a homeland in Siberia? ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/70 "2010-08-31T16:49:07Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Well, **The Flying Dutchman** said jews rule the world and he’s a respected member of the community I can’t imagine a community where this could possibly be true. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/71 "2010-08-31T16:52:26Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > > [@Babale](#): > > > > Well, **The Flying Dutchman** said jews rule the world and he’s a respected member of the community > > I can’t imagine a community where this could possibly be true. The Netherlands airforce? ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/72 "2010-08-31T17:35:00Z")
Posted by the OP in another thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12846366#post12846366](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12846366#post12846366) > [@](#): > > Every time I see that bitch on TV, I realize how stupid half of America is. – Oh the irony! Look you flea brained product of a million years of inbreeding, you festering boil on the rear end of humanity, you pathetic Neo-Nazi wannabee – my daughter and myself and every other goddamned Jew on the planet fits in better that you ever will. My “homeland” is New Jersey, asshole. Get over it, shit for brains. ---
**Author:** ![HoboStew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@HoboStew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoboStew)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/73 "2010-08-31T17:41:25Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > > [@HoboStew](#): > > > > Siberia! Of course! Why don’t they just live there?! There’s also plenty of open space in Antarctica, they could roam free as the wind! Congratulations sir, you have just solved a major diplomatic issue. Your awards shall be arriving presently. > > Do you have anything CONSTRUCTIVE to add? Nope. Do you? ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/74 "2010-08-31T17:57:10Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > I am looking for ideas. What is a better solution to the problem of the Jews? Sending you and your ilk to Madagascar would be a start. You seem to be the one with the problem here. ---
**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/75 "2010-08-31T18:15:23Z")
> [@villa](#): > > > [@The\_Facts](#): > > > > I am looking for ideas. What is a better solution to the problem of the Jews? > > Sending you and your ilk to Madagascar would be a start. You seem to be the one with the problem here. But then they’ll be the only ones who survive the global pandemic. Are you sure you want that? ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/76 "2010-08-31T18:16:40Z")
> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#): > > > [@villa](#): > > > > Sending you and your ilk to Madagascar would be a start. You seem to be the one with the problem here. > > But then they’ll be the only ones who survive the global pandemic. Are you sure you want that? If I don’t survive, I don’t care. And then they’ll just find a sub group of themselves to hate, and the whole process can start again. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/77 "2010-08-31T19:04:13Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Remember kids: subtle racism is just as bad as normal racism and twice as dangerous. _Subtle?!?_ ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/78 "2010-08-31T19:09:03Z")
> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#): > > > [@villa](#): > > > > Sending you and your ilk to Madagascar would be a start. You seem to be the one with the problem here. > > But then they’ll be the only ones who survive the global pandemic. Are you sure you want that? Unless it starts there, of course. They’ve got some real germophobes in charge of that airport. ---
**Author:** ![Tethered\_Kite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tethered\_Kite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tethered_Kite)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/79 "2010-08-31T19:11:58Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > You have made your intentions clear. > > The problem is not Jews, it is you, and your kind. We need to find a solution for the religion of hate which infects us. It’s first commandment is to credit yourself with the achievements of others with whom you percieve a resemblance. It’s second is to blame all of your failures on those perceived as most contrasting. It’s third is to murder and torture them in a bloody paroxysm of rage. > > I hope that you will not find the DESTRUCTIVE arguments you seek here. There you go: That IS the Final Solution. Always has been, probably always will be, human nature being what it is. All extremists of any political bent finally reach this place. To strive for the final - rational - solution would involve learning to live comfortably in peace, or at least tolerance, of those who don’t share your opinions, beliefs and behaviors. (You go first 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095/80 "2010-08-31T19:15:19Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > Maybe we’re different… Christ, I hope so. The idea that there might be any similarity between the two of us is enough to give me night terrors. > [@](#): > > …but when I see people being killed on TV, I think it’s a problem. No, you see people as a problem. I see them as people. So that’s at least one difference between us. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-final-solution/552095.md?page=5)