# So What Just Happened in Gaza? (March 1st 2024)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news, israel-hamas-war\
**Created:** [March 1, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329 "2024-03-01T22:19:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/1 "2024-03-01T22:19:46Z")

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I am disappointed with press coverage. Something Very Bad jut happened in Gaza. There is just about no coverage about it except in the [New York Times.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/01/world/middleeast/gaza-convoy-israel-ceasefire.html) I can see why, Gaza right now is a heck-hole. Starvation is starting to appear. The Israelis are keeping out reporters.

The Israeli papers like the J-Post have nothing either. **IIs there a reliable source I am missing?**

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**Author:** ![Orville\_mogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/aeb1de/32.png) [@Orville\_mogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orville_mogul)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/2 "2024-03-01T22:29:09Z")

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Paywalled

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/3 "2024-03-01T22:35:45Z")

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It was covered on all the major news sites. Its fairly clear what happened to a degree, Israeli troops opened fire while a huge crowd was waiting for a food convoy, 100+ people were killed:

> **[Israel faces mounting pressure to investigate Gaza food aid deaths](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/01/france-demands-investigation-palestinians-killed-aid-delivery-gaza)**
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> France calls for independent inquiry and Germany says army must explain after more than 100 Palestinians killed

Though _exactly_ what happened beyond those basic facts, and exactly what killed those 100+ people (gunfire, a crush, or the trucks themselves) probably no one knows that’s the nature of these kind of tragedy. While I do often fault the news coverage for not giving the salient details they should, I think in this case its warranted, neither claiming “Israeli troops shoot dead 100 Palestinians” or '100 Palestinians killed in a crush waiting for food aid" is a reasonable thing for a news agency to say at this point.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/4 "2024-03-01T22:37:07Z")

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It’s on the top of the CNN Israel/Hamas page.

> **[Live updates: Israel-Hamas war, deaths at Gaza food line](https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-03-01-24/index.html)**
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> Scores of people have been killed and hundreds injured in Gaza after Israeli forces opened fire as Palestinian civilians were waiting for food, according to the Palestinian health ministry in Gaza. Follow for live updates.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/5 "2024-03-01T22:37:28Z")

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This has been all over the news in every major source since early this morning.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/6 "2024-03-01T22:41:53Z")

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> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#):
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> The Israeli papers like the J-Post have nothing either. **IIs there a reliable source I am missing?**

Just typing “Gaza convoy” from the webpage name of the NY Times article into Google creates the autocomplete of “Gaza convoy attack” which produces links to dozens upon dozens of major news sources.

Even major news sources like the Portland Press Herald.

> **[Gaza doctor says 80% of wounds at his hospital were from gunfire after aid...](https://www.pressherald.com/2024/03/01/gaza-doctor-says-80-of-wounds-at-his-hospital-were-from-gunfire-after-aid-convoy-attacked/)**
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> At least 112 Palestinians were killed and more than 750 others were injured Thursday, according to health officials, when witnesses said Israeli troops opened fire as huge crowds raced to pull goods off an aid convoy.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/7 "2024-03-01T22:53:35Z")

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Is the OP asking about something that just happened _today, like within the last few hours_? The food line event was earlier and has been extensively covered (altho no good explanations have been produced, yet).

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/8 "2024-03-01T23:10:52Z")

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I like to spread paltry bits of good news. Giorgia Meloni and Joe Biden plan to organize flying in supplies to Gaza.

> **[Biden announces U.S. will airdrop food aid into Gaza as famine concerns grow](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-announces-us-will-airdrop-food-aid-gaza-rcna141436)**
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> The president reiterated that the U.S. is trying to push for an immediate cease-fire between Hamas and Israel in order to allow more aid into Gaza.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/9 "2024-03-02T21:00:03Z")

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…and so poor SOB will get as close as possible to be the first to eat, and will be killed by the falling package.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/10 "2024-03-02T22:44:38Z")

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Presuming this is what we’re talking about, as the OP hasn’t come in to say otherwise: this should be a gift link. [https://wapo.st/48CpycH](https://wapo.st/48CpycH)

and from that link:

> hundreds of people, so tiny in the images that their human forms had almost vanished, desperately swarming a convoy of food trucks to grab what they could.
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> And then, off camera, the worst happened: The crowd stampeded, trucks crushed people under their wheels and a few Israeli troops opened fire, according to U.S. officials. [. . .]
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> As at every point in this conflict, there was an immediate quarrel about who was to blame for the food-truck carnage. Palestinians claimed Israeli troops had massacred civilians, but those allegations apparently were false, as were Israel’s claims that its troops had no role. According to U.S. officials who spoke Friday with Israel Defense Forces commanders, Israeli troops at a checkpoint at the rear of the convoy opened fire and killed about 10 people.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/11 "2024-03-04T20:36:30Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Palestinians claimed Israeli troops had massacred civilians, but those allegations apparently were false,

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> According to U.S. officials who spoke Friday with Israel Defense Forces commanders, Israeli troops at a checkpoint at the rear of the convoy opened fire and killed about 10 people.

…the article doesn’t make any sense. US officials state that they’ve been told by IDF commanders that Israeli troops opened fire and killed at least 10 people. That’s a massacre. How does that make the Palestinian accusations apparently false?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/12 "2024-03-04T22:13:42Z")

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Palestinian accusations that most of the deaths and injuries were from Israeli gunfire. Some of which were quoted earlier in this thread. I agree that the article’s not entirely clear in its phrasing.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-just-happened-in-gaza-march-1st-2024/998329/13 "2024-03-04T22:28:25Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Palestinian accusations that most of the deaths and injuries were from Israeli gunfire.

…and that appears to be the case. The WP article doesn’t even quote from Palestinian sources _at all_. How would the IDF know how many people were shot, or were allegedly crushed? They don’t have custody of any of the bodies. They weren’t at any of the hospitals.

And shooting ten people is still a _massacre_.

And this from the article is just plain weird:

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> Watching the drone footage of the scramble for food, it’s hard not to conclude that Israel and Hamas have unintentionally combined to create an interim status of mob rule for Gaza.

There is nothing unintentional about Israel’s strategy here. Its deliberate starvation. Israeli leadership are on record that this is what they are doing. Trying to pretend that this is something that “accidentally” happened, and not the inevitable consequence of a policy to deny humanitarian aid to millions of people, is bizarre.
