# So what should be the Democrats' version of "Make America Great Again?"

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 8, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734 "2017-07-08T02:36:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/261 "2017-07-21T17:44:55Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Of course it’s a slogan. But it’s a snappy (and yugely successful) one. As opposed to the ridiculous clunker of “A Better Deal: Better Skills, Better Jobs, Better Wages”.
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> But please, Democrats, go with that.

Personally, if I were to go with a slogan, it’d be simple.

“We can do better.”

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/262 "2017-07-21T22:54:23Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> [“A Better Deal: Better Skills, Better Jobs, Better Wages”](http://www.newsweek.com/democrats-stealing-papa-johns-slogan-2018-639904)
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> Democrats are as tone-deaf as ever.

Maybe they think the FDR reference is a sop to the left.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Perhaps they point this stuff out because Republicans do in fact [vote down healthcare for veterans](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-veterans-congress-idUSBREA1Q26O20140227), [boo gay soldiers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3eMRlBgKYU) and [fail to support rape victims in the military](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/gop-congressional-candidate-explains-why-military-rape-natural/357044/).

I thought these were well known examples, but thanks for the assist.

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> I’m also not sure why giving big piles of money to the Pentagon is considered supporting our troops but trying to actually provide real support for them isn’t.

Probably because America has a violent, pro-war culture. They even “declare war” on domestic issues like drugs and poverty and militarize their police. One could argue picking up litter on the side of the road or volunteering at a soup kitchen is patriotic, but that’s not generally how it’s used.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/263 "2017-07-31T15:38:26Z")

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The place it came from is pretty stupid, but I like the sentiment:

Make America America Again.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/264 "2017-07-31T15:52:00Z")

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A lot of these slogans, including the one they went with, seem like silly riffs to contrast the current administration. I think that’s a bad idea in general and the Democratic Party should instead craft a message that doesn’t lend itself to being a comparison to their opponents.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/265 "2017-07-31T17:19:22Z")

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I don’t think there’s anything particularly bad about “A Better Deal.” I could do without the sub-title, but I suspect that won’t be emphasized on the stickers, t-shirts and ugly hats. I mean, it’s not a barn-burner, I admit, but neither is “Make America Great Again.” In fact, it’s incredibly similar to that. It’s a purposefully broad notion that can apply in a lot of areas - it’s what you do with it that matters.

And I think we can all agree that it’s light years better than **Jeb!** 😃

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**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/266 "2017-07-31T17:45:23Z")

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> [@pjacks](#):
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> I agree, but how to you encompass all that in a catchy slogan?

Tumescent For A New America!

Edit: Holy crap, you weren’t kidding, these are awful slogans and graphics.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/267 "2017-08-11T13:34:39Z")

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It appears to be even worse than some of us envisioned in this thread:

> [@](#):
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> [Democrats try to co-opt populist rage. Hilarity ensues.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-try-co-opt-populist-rage-hilarity-ensues-090005021.html)
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> Washington was abuzz this week with talk about the new Democratic agenda, “ **A Better Deal** ,” which is suddenly dominating news coverage and captivating voters with a plan to remake the American economy, sending Republicans scrambling for a viable platform of their own in advance of the midterm elections.
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> No, not really. I just wanted to see if you were paying attention on the beach.
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> \<snip\>
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> The slogan, which apparently took months of focus-grouping to perfect, rather than the five seconds of idle thought while doing the laundry that you would think it required, evokes — yet again — memories of the Roosevelt and Truman administrations, which remain powerful in exactly two places in America: nursing homes and Democratic leadership meetings.

Emphasis added.

I did lose a bit of respect for Matt Bai with his incessant hammering at Hillary during the campaign, but this was pretty funny and did have what I thought as some cogent analysis.

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