# So what should be the Democrats' version of "Make America Great Again?"

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 8, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734 "2017-07-08T02:36:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/21 "2017-07-08T10:45:23Z")

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> [@pjacks](#):
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> Hhmmm, yeah, I saw what you mean.  
> “A True Deal” ?
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> Sent from my R1 HD using Tapatalk

Could try “A Square Deal” again.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/22 "2017-07-08T10:47:35Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Drop the “Again”, and roll up our sleeves.

The problem is the Dem’s have a bunch of older Arms. Who is the face of this party?

Old men and women without a lot of energy. New leadership away from the far left is needed.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/23 "2017-07-08T12:04:56Z")

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She persisted, we resisted sounds like a woman tried to get me drunk to date rape me. But I got out of there. And that, officer, is why I was driving while intoxicated. It’s all there on the bumper sticker! Can’t you read?

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/24 "2017-07-08T13:12:47Z")

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Return to Normalcy

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/25 "2017-07-08T13:17:44Z")

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Let’s Win Back Respect

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/26 "2017-07-08T13:42:57Z")

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Clean Up On Aisle 1600

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/27 "2017-07-08T14:43:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Drop the “Again”, and roll up our sleeves.

First thing that came to my mind when I read the thread title.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/28 "2017-07-08T15:06:39Z")

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I like “Fair Deal”. “Square” has some negative connotations. Using “all” in the slogan will make some think it’s the party for minorities of all types. I wouldn’t mind “Stop the Republican Free-for-All, It’s time to make America Fair for all.” but that’s a bit long.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/29 "2017-07-08T15:29:20Z")

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> [@pjacks](#):
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> Which makes me wonder, what would be the Democrats’ version of MAGA? Just a rallying cry that encompasses the party’s positions & hopefully sell a lot of hats? “Hope & Change” sounds laughably naive in retrospect, & “Stronger Together” & “I’m With Her” are fine platitudes but were even more useless in communicating Democratic policies.

“Stronger Together” and “I’m With Her” highlighted how narcissistic and out of touch Hillary is - they’re the candidate saying “I’m great, you should follow me because I’m great,” with overtones of “you should vote for my vagina-having-ness” in the second one. Meanwhile “Make America Great Again” talks about what Trump will do for you and the country, it isn’t about Trump except as the instrument of that change. Trump wasn’t short on self-aggrandizement, but he presented something more like “I’m great and I do things my own way and I’m going to do stuff for you people who get ignored and boost AMERICA” than “I’m qualified, I mean great, and the party says it’s time for me to be elected, so go elect me because it’s time to elect me”. When Donald Trump, a guy who likes writing his name in giant gold letters, manages to come up with a less self-centered campaign slogan than you, it says a lot.

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> Or do you think the slogan ideas the party was floating in the email survey were decent? Are they capable of taking back the house with a rallying cry like “Democrats 2018: I Mean, Have You Seen the Other Guys?”

I mean, it’s better than “It’s her turn”, which was [seriously considered](http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-slogan-why-run-because-her-turn-2017-4) as a slogan by Clinton’s campaign staff, but it’s an awful idea to even consider. The biggest problem for Democrats in elections is generally low turnout, and a slogan that amounts to “We suck, we know we suck, but maybe the other guy sucks worse” doesn’t exactly encourage turnout. Do the Democrats really have no positive message to send? I really don’t get why they’re so afraid of sending positive messages or actual policy positions, it generally works well in politics (Reagan, Bill, W, Obama all had success with it in recent elections).

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/30 "2017-07-08T15:30:06Z")

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Truly awful, every one of them.

Why don’t they just go for full disclosure and brutal honesty:  
“A slightly less awful choice than the Republicans!”  
“Vote for Kodos, Kang has got you nowhere!”  
“We won’t get anything done, but at least we’re not actively evil - vote Democrat!”

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/31 "2017-07-08T15:53:54Z")

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Experience, integrity, respect.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/32 "2017-07-08T16:04:30Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> First thing that came to my mind when I read the thread title.

Great minds think alike. Twisted minds as well, apparently.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/33 "2017-07-08T16:11:25Z")

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> [@Cabbage](#):
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> Hindsight is 2020

I’m not sure what that means, but I like it.

The only things I can think of this early on a Saturday is Ze Frank’s FILDI and a sad attempt at morphing “a chicken in every pot” to something contemporary. That last did not turn out well.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/34 "2017-07-08T16:11:43Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Experience, integrity, respect.

Too difficult to live up to. Especially the 2nd part. These are _politicians_ we’re talking about.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/35 "2017-07-08T16:16:29Z")

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I am seriously enjoying watching this thread. Every one of these slogans is great and I hope Democrats adopt them all. I especially like “A Fair Deal” and “Justice for All”. Those are definitely winning slogans.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/36 "2017-07-08T16:27:42Z")

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“Embrace technocratic incrementalism.”

It’s hard to make a hip slogan for the Dems. The counter-culture energy is on the right. They’re the masters of edgy memes and trolling.

> [@Pantastic](#):
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> “Stronger Together” and “I’m With Her” highlighted how narcissistic and out of touch Hillary is - they’re the candidate saying “I’m great, you should follow me because I’m great,” with overtones of “you should vote for my vagina-having-ness” in the second one.

Tippecanoe and Tyler Too  
We Polked you in '44, We shall Pierce you in '52  
Grant Us Another Term  
Win with Wilson  
War in the East, Peace in the West, Thank God for Woodrow Wilson  
Keep Cool and Keep Coolidge  
Who but Hoover?  
Forward with Roosevelt  
Pour it on 'em, Harry!  
I like Ike  
All the way with LBJ  
Nixon’s the One  
Can’t stump the Trump

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/37 "2017-07-08T16:59:35Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> I like Ike

If you’re trying to think up worse slogan idea, I think you found one. In a race with two wildly unpopular candidates, both of whom spark absolute hatred from some opponents, using “I like Hillary” seems like something that might actually be worse than what she did. A lot of people voting for Hillary thought “I held my nose and voted for her because she’s not Trump, but damn” than anything approaching ‘like’, and that slogan would probably piss off every “at least she’s not Trump” voter to some degree, leading to even lower turnouts.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/38 "2017-07-08T17:58:20Z")

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> [@Pantastic](#):
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> If you’re trying to think up worse slogan idea, I think you found one. In a race with two wildly unpopular candidates, both of whom spark absolute hatred from some opponents, using “I like Hillary” seems like something that might actually be worse than what she did.

Well, duh. It doesn’t rhyme, and “I pillory Hillary” is a step in the wrong direction.

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Those ideas are so bad, my first thought was that this had to be a faked survey. Oh well.

What I would LIKE to see, is for ONE of the parties turn away from sound-bite thinking altogether. Oh well to that too.

What we need, is leaders who propose real solutions for our real challenges. Not slogan crafters.

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Take America Back

Truth to Power

Or just

TRUTH

Or something that’s not wimpy. And doesn’t invoke Hillary

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