# So what should be the Democrats' version of "Make America Great Again?" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 8, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734 "2017-07-08T02:36:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/121 "2017-07-12T19:44:09Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > Deliver us from evil I actually kinda like this one. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/122 "2017-07-12T20:06:11Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > If George Clinton wants to run for some reason, I think I’m OK with that. Tear the roof of the mother sucker White House! ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/123 "2017-07-12T20:06:53Z")
America…a bold new future. Let’s look ahead, not behind and forge that future together, as one people, united. Then, put in the tagline of ‘We choose to go to Mars and do the other difficult things…not because they are easy, but because they are hard.’ ETA: Just kidding about that last part. ---
**Author:** ![Frankenstein\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ccd318/32.png) [@Frankenstein\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frankenstein_Monster)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/124 "2017-07-12T20:14:42Z")
“Energize” (I like that better than Energize America) “Down With Trump” (a parallel to Lock Her Up) “Get Your Ass to Mars” (we choose to go to the Moon) “Healthcare for All” “Peace and prosperity” ETA: Hadn’t seen **XT’s** post! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/125 "2017-07-12T20:28:33Z")
> [@XT](#): > > America…a bold new future. Let’s look ahead, not behind and forge that future together, as one people, united. TL;DR ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/126 "2017-07-12T20:33:10Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > How about, “Make America Sane Again”? Problem is, this invites the conservatives to immediately cherry-pick and produce a long list of incidents where Democrats/liberals _weren’t_ sane. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/127 "2017-07-12T20:34:26Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > TL;DR How about Democrats, snatching defeat from the slavering jaws of victory…AGAIN! That’s kind of catchy. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/128 "2017-07-12T20:39:40Z")
Why would anyone want to make America same again? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/129 "2017-07-12T20:40:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > TL;DR I like the idea, but it may be a bit too wordy. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/130 "2017-07-12T20:46:57Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I like the idea, but it may be a bit too wordy. Well, the tagline was ‘America…a bold new future’, which is only 2 words and an ellipsis longer than ‘Make America Great Again’. I get that it’s a bit longer, but surely folks can slog through the excess. 😉 The rest was supposed to be part of the speech to give the tagline some meat. I’d vote for anyone who said they were going to seriously look at a US manned mission to Mars, so just tossed that in because it sounds good (to me). Give it a little Kennedy-esque gravitas and all that… ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/131 "2017-07-12T20:48:58Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Well, the tagline was ‘America…a bold new future’, which is only 2 words and an ellipsis longer than ‘Make America Great Again’. I get that it’s a bit longer, but surely folks can slog through the excess. 😉 The rest was supposed to be part of the speech to give the tagline some meat. > > I’d vote for anyone who said they were going to seriously look at a US manned mission to Mars, so just tossed that in because it sounds good (to me). I was actually replying to John’s “suggestion” of “TL;DR”. But, how about bumper stickers we put on right now, that say, “America _is_ great. Let’s keep her that way!” Waiting till the election may give the wrong idea. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/132 "2017-07-12T20:55:29Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I was actually replying to John’s “suggestion” of “TL;DR”. > > But, how about bumper stickers we put on right now, that say, “America _is_ great. Let’s keep her that way!” > > Waiting till the election may give the wrong idea. Ah, I didn’t get that. :smack: As to your suggestion, the serious answer is that it indicates that someone thinks America is fine as it is and doesn’t need to change (and, especially after Trump that would be a bad position for the Dems, even if it were true). What you need is something catchy that is vague enough that it can mean something different to everyone yet appeal to a large number of people. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/133 "2017-07-12T21:02:35Z")
**We All Do Better When We All Do Better**. A phrase [coined by the late Paul Wellstone](http://www.startribune.com/we-all-do-better-when-we-all-do-better/103588254/). Oft repeated by Al Franken. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/134 "2017-07-12T21:30:32Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Ah, I didn’t get that. :smack: As to your suggestion, the serious answer is that it indicates that someone thinks America is fine as it is and doesn’t need to change (and, especially after Trump that would be a bad position for the Dems, even if it were true). What you need is something catchy that is vague enough that it can mean something different to everyone yet appeal to a large number of people. That would be the reason for putting them out right away, before much change has transpired. Probably would have been a better use for 2016, maybe recycle it next time we have an incumbent president. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/135 "2017-07-12T22:00:57Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > This continues to be a myth. > [Issues Archive - The Office of Hillary Rodham Clinton](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/) > Trump’s has since been taken down, but it had a handful of issues sketched out, in levels of detail ranging from “insultingly vague” to “it would take an idiot to think this would actually work”. But a slogan is not about the underlying policy. Now, I’m a wonk, and I read the wonky details of Hillary’s platform and found all the detail I wanted and plans that were practical and would work, and was horrified at the lack of any practical policy thought from Trump. But when I listened to her speeches (several in full), the parts that were sound-bites and memorable were either (1) all the attacks, or (2) tied to her person not her policies (“I’m with her”). I actually found myself begging with the screen “Please Hillary! Say something emotionally positive and catchy about the voters’ problems, just this once!” A slogan is heart, not brains. You know, the hopey-changy stuff. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/136 "2017-07-12T22:18:33Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > But, how about bumper stickers we put on right now, that say, “America _is_ great. Let’s keep her that way!” Saying that America is already great [was a Dem tactic and theme of their convention.](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/04/democrats-america-already-great-nauseating-patriotism-trump-clinton) They even made [parody hats.](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/256571-dems-selling-america-is-already-great-hat) For some reason the message that everything is hunky dory didn’t fly so well in a change election. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/137 "2017-07-12T22:56:58Z")
**Are You Pondering What I’m Pondering ?** ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/138 "2017-07-12T23:02:12Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I was actually replying to John’s “suggestion” of “TL;DR”. > > But, how about bumper stickers we put on right now, that say, “America _is_ great. Let’s keep her that way!” > > Waiting till the election may give the wrong idea. But doesn’t your bumper sticker imply that you want to keep Trump in office? Or, at least, that would be one reading of it. FYI, my TL;DR was supposed to be a meta joke. I hope it didn’t fall flat. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/139 "2017-07-12T23:04:33Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > But doesn’t your bumper sticker imply that you want to keep Trump in office? Or, at least, that would be one reading of it. > > FYI, my TL;DR was supposed to be a meta joke. I hope it didn’t fall flat. Yeah, that’s why I said it would need to be distributed early, before any trump changes take place, but also acknowledged that it would be better for the use of an incumbent party. I actually was imagining the “TL;DR” as a bumper sticker slogan in and of itself. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/140 "2017-07-12T23:25:43Z")
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