# So what should be the Democrats' version of "Make America Great Again?" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 8, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734 "2017-07-08T02:36:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/141 "2017-07-12T23:32:03Z")
Meta[sup]2[/sup] ---
**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/142 "2017-07-13T02:04:16Z")
America: Fuck Yeah! Democrats: The problem mutilators! (With electrolytes!) I personally really liked the “Let’s do this shit” suggestion. I think that hits a really wide segment of people. Couldn’t be an official slogan, but if properly germinated, it could have grass roots. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/143 "2017-07-13T04:05:33Z")
Srsly? WTF! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/144 "2017-07-14T06:33:29Z")
SAURON/VOLDEMORT 2020 _Still_ better than the Pubbies. ---
**Author:** ![Flying\_Rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/858c86/32.png) [@Flying\_Rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flying_Rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/145 "2017-07-14T09:52:03Z")
> [@Sinaptics](#): > > America: Fuck Yeah! > Democrats: The problem mutilators! (With electrolytes!) > > I personally really liked the “Let’s do this shit” suggestion. I think that hits a really wide segment of people. Couldn’t be an official slogan, but if properly germinated, it could have grass roots. I like those too. And someone else said “Make America America Again” Those are my three favorites. I could never be in advertising, all I really like is sarcasm. Everything sounds corny to me. But I do think I could have come up with something better than “I’m with her.” That’s the worst slogan they could have chosen. ---
**Author:** ![Flying\_Rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/858c86/32.png) [@Flying\_Rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flying_Rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/146 "2017-07-15T13:08:18Z")
Literally Anyone Else 2020 [http://wonkettebazaar.com/shop/literally-anyone-else-2020-the-only-ballcap-you-need/](http://wonkettebazaar.com/shop/literally-anyone-else-2020-the-only-ballcap-you-need/) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/147 "2017-07-15T15:03:36Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > OK, that was kinda funny. But I think it might sound better in [fake] Latin. > > E multa gendera, unum lavatorium! Peeing Together! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/148 "2017-07-15T16:06:51Z")
> [@Flying\_Rabbit](#): > > I like those too. And someone else said “Make America America Again” When was America American before? I guess I’d like to know what we’re turning the clocks back to. As a straight, white male, I’m almost certain to gain from this experiment, but I wanna know by how much!! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/149 "2017-07-16T04:10:42Z")
“Give Trump the bum’s Russia!” - it’s a work in progress. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/150 "2017-07-16T05:07:11Z")
“Back by Popular Demand” as the second line. A variety of first lines. “The Middle Class”, “Integrity”. Fill in your own blank there. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/151 "2017-07-16T10:47:19Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > As a straight, white male, I’m almost certain to gain from this experiment, but I wanna know by how much!! I have a few Ho-Chunk (Winnebago) neighbors who might beg to differ… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![igor\_frankensteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/839c29/32.png) [@igor\_frankensteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/igor_frankensteen)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/152 "2017-07-16T17:16:11Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > But a slogan is not about the underlying policy. Now, I’m a wonk, and I read the wonky details of Hillary’s platform and found all the detail I wanted and plans that were practical and would work, and was horrified at the lack of any practical policy thought from Trump. > > But when I listened to her speeches (several in full), the parts that were sound-bites and memorable were either (1) all the attacks, or (2) tied to her person not her policies (“I’m with her”). I actually found myself begging with the screen “Please Hillary! Say something emotionally positive and catchy about the voters’ problems, just this once!” A slogan is heart, not brains. You know, the hopey-changy stuff. This is exactly what I was referring to as well. Way back when the 2016 election process began, I looked at what came to be called the Clown Car of Republican hopefuls, versus the Almost No One Wants To Run field of Democrats, I expected the race to end up being Hillary versus Bush III, or maybe Hillary versus Cruz. As Trump gradually took the lead, and the majority of the “clowns” dropped out, I saw that the Republican Party leadership was clearly out of touch with the base that they had purposely built, because they expected people who had been trained to be paranoid and knee-jerk, to vote WITHIN the party as though they were doctrinaire instead. Trump was such a buffoon the entire time, I at first thought that Hillary would win going away, but then I began to notice how incredibly bad Hilary’s speaking performances were. Her nomination acceptance speech was aimless and vague, with her assumed “cheering” pauses all in the wrong places. I gradually stopped laughing at the “Trump is running to Help Hillary” joke, and started to seriously suspect that it would turn out to have been the other way around all along, by accident. And something does need to be noticed, about this whole subject: Trump’s MAGA slogan was NOT as hell for leather successful as some think it was. After all, he barely squeaked in, he didn’t roll to easy victory, and many still recognize that he lost the popular vote. Sound bites have to be understood in CONTEXT. Trump had an entire campaign promotional platform, designed to mesh with and illuminate HIS biggest Bite. If the Democrats are going to do well in the future, they need to do the same thing, and not JUST try to invent kicky sounding cleverness. The Republicans (I’m talking about the real leadership, and the bulk of the most powerful followers, not Trump’s portion) never had an actual plan to do anything for America as a nation. That’s clear from the fact that they have produced zero meaningful legislation since gaining nominal control of all three major portions of the government at the same time. The Democrats got Obama in, in large part because of that being the case for the last TWENTY years. The Democrats need to learn from all that, and start by formulating an activist platform first, and THEN come up with the soundbites to drive it over the airwaves. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/153 "2017-07-16T18:18:55Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > I have a few Ho-Chunk (Winnebago) neighbors who might beg to differ… 😉 Make America Great Again-- get those goddam Winnebagos off the roads! [I was stuck behind one of them yesterday along the coast as the driver was going, no exaggeration, 5 MPH] Oh, wait. You men THOSE Winnebagos. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/154 "2017-07-16T23:04:17Z")
“Truth, Justice and the American Way”. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/155 "2017-07-17T14:16:02Z")
> [@Cabbage](#): > > Hindsight is 2020 Thread winner! ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/156 "2017-07-17T14:57:33Z")
As one of our resident conservatives, you’ll probably want to take my advice with a grain of salt, but … > [@asahi](#): > > It’s not PC but the Democrats, like it or not, need more testosterone. They can be white male macho and yet still balance that with respect for minorities, LGBT, and feminism – those can coexist. They can also be friendly to business while simultaneously being friendly to the middle and lower classes. I thought something like [this video from John Cena](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MdK8hBkR3s) struck the right tone. It’s patriotic, and optimistic, and yet speaks for values that are important to Democrats. Also, I thought “justice for all” was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/157 "2017-07-17T15:59:28Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > It’s patriotic, and optimistic, and yet speaks for values that are important to Democrats. “Yet” ? :dubious: Please expound on that point. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/158 "2017-07-17T17:23:16Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > “Yet” ? :dubious: Please expound on that point. I think it’s pretty clear that he thinks those are values Democrats oppose. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/159 "2017-07-17T17:53:40Z")
Seems odd that Democrats are not associated with optimism, considering one candidate for president (not a Democrat) spent the whole campaign saying how it was all gloom and doom, the jobless rate was “really” 40%, healthcare was a disaster, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734/160 "2017-07-17T18:04:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > “Yet” ? :dubious: Please expound on that point. There is a perception among many folks - not entirely without merit - that Democrats are unpatriotic, or, at least, not as patriotic as Republicans. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-should-be-the-democrats-version-of-make-america-great-again/790734.md?page=9)