# So what were the Disney Dwarfs going to do to the Evil Queen?

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**Created:** [September 3, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663 "2020-09-03T01:53:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\
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In the original Grimm story, the dwarfs didn’t chase after the evil queen. At Snow White’s wedding, the queen is forced to wear red hot shoes and dance to her death. I tried to find out if the dwarfs were the ones to provide the lethal footwear, but the sites I looked up didn’t say so.

But in the Disney movie, the Seven Dwarfs chase the Evil Queen up a mountain where she falls off a cliff. So I was thinking today, just what were the Dwarfs planning to do with the Queen if they had caught her? Chop her into little bits with their pickaxes? Do a whole _Suddenly Last Summer_ number on her?

It just seems a little gruesome and bloodthirsty for the good guys.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/2 "2020-09-03T02:00:09Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#):
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> So I was thinking today, just what were the Dwarfs planning to do with the Queen if they had caught her?

They didn’t plan that far ahead. Disney villains somehow just plummet to their deaths!

> **[Disney Villain Death - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DisneyVillainDeath)**
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> Villains in the Disney Animated Canon have an especially curious tendency to exit the film by falling off or out of things. Unfortunately for them, even though they are animated characters, they cannot defy gravity. The varied list of things to …

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/3 "2020-09-03T03:34:09Z")

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I can only see two possibilities, really. Either they were going to kill her or use the threat of such to capture her. Capturing her would be fraught with political difficulty, since she’s the queen, but I don’t remember if they actually recognized her, since she dies as the old hag. So it’s still possible.

However, I wouldn’t put it past them to be planning to kill or at least consider that a possibility. As far as they know, the hag murdered Snow White. It’s pretty natural to want to kill the murderer of someone you care about. I believe what makes that uncommon today is that, instead of killing them, the murderer can be brought under the legal system today. A lot of laws exist to civilize the punishment that would occur anyways.

If they know she’s the queen, there’s no way the law would punish her. And if they don’t, they do tend to know the queen hates Snow White, so they have every reason to think her murderer wouldn’t be punished.

I’m pretty sure the point of Disney Deaths is to make it where the villain can be killed without the protagonists being directly responsible.

Ugh–that’s a bit darker than I wanted to take this. So here’s a silly answer: they were going to tie her up and make her do all the maid duties instead.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/4 "2020-09-03T20:07:27Z")

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Fairy tales tend to be rather, er, Grim.  
Cinderella’s sister cut pieces off their feet so they can wear pretty shoes.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/5 "2020-09-03T21:03:22Z")

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The old “roll her in a barrel with internal spikes” bit is always hilarious…fun for the whole family

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/6 "2020-09-03T21:07:31Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#):
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> Do a whole _Suddenly Last Summer_ number on her?

Is that anything like The Number 6 Dance from _Blazing Saddles_?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/7 "2020-09-03T23:59:07Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> > [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#):
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> > Do a whole _Suddenly Last Summer_ number on her?
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> Is that anything Iike The Number 6 Dance from _Blazing Saddles_?

[Much worse.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suddenly,_Last_Summer_(film))

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> Before an audience consisting of her aunt, mother and brother, Miss Foxhill ([Mavis Villiers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavis_Villiers)), Dr. Hockstader, and Nurse Benson ([Patricia Marmont](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Marmont)), all of whom have gathered on the patio in the jungle-like garden, Cukrowicz begins questioning Catherine. She recalls how she and Sebastian spent their days on the beach in the Spanish town of Cabeza de Lobo. On one occasion, he drags her reluctantly into the water, causing the fabric of her white bathing suit to become transparent. A group of young men who had been watching her from the neighboring public beach start to approach but are intercepted by Sebastian. Catherine comes to realize that he is using her to attract these boys in order to [proposition them for sex](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_prostitution). Because the boys are desperate for money, Sebastian is successful in his efforts; however, he gradually becomes “fed up with the dark ones”, and being “famished for blonds,” makes plans to depart for Northern Europe. One scorching white-hot day, Sebastian and Catherine are beset by a team of boys begging for money. When Sebastian rejects them, they pursue him through the streets of the town. Sebastian attempts to flee, but the boys swarm around him at every turn. He finally is cornered among the ruins of a temple on a hilltop. In the meantime, Catherine frantically has been trying to catch up with Sebastian, but she reaches him only to see him overwhelmed by the boys. To her horror and revulsion, they begin to tear him apart and [eat his flesh](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism). She screams for help to no avail.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/8 "2020-09-04T00:09:09Z")

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Sweet baby Jesus - I thought you were talking about the song by The Motels.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b9Ox-lGm-wA/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AG-AoAC8AGKAgwIABABGGUgTihIMA8=&rs=AOn4CLDxxy1VMxwph7z6U8gOiFnjklfboQ "The Motels - Suddenly Last Summer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Ox-lGm-wA)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/9 "2020-09-04T03:24:53Z")

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I KNOW!

When I saw the film, I thought _”What in God’s name were the Motels THINKING?”_

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/10 "2020-09-04T13:28:08Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Fairy tales tend to be rather, er, Grim.

And I’ve often heard the Bros toned down the stories they collected. Although I’m not aware of any known source material for this one.

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Tying her up was going to be the extent of the dwarfs’ active involvement but that wasn’t going to be the end of things. They were going to call some pipe-hitting trolls to go to work on the hag with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/12 "2020-09-04T22:01:07Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> They didn’t plan that far ahead. Disney villains somehow just plummet to their deaths!

You’re okay if you yell “AAAHH-HOO-HOO-HOOEY!” I assume she forgot?

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-the-disney-dwarfs-going-to-do-to-the-evil-queen/919663/13 "2020-09-06T00:35:41Z")

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Head on pike in front yard, body tossed in hog wallow out back.
